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Old 10-31-2021, 10:48 AM
 
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Explain it then? Why is Biden pushing to close down American jobs while keeping the borders open so all these illegals can come in? Need vaccine passports to travel to NY, but's okay for illegals to come in through the Mexican border????
This ^^^^
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Old 10-31-2021, 11:01 AM
 
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imo, the Great Resignation, that has gone global. My only question now is how long can they last, before they have to return to the salt mines? But without the worker bees, no one will be doing anything.

COVID layoffs taught people many things --- and they learned.
They have a plan for that- automation. And using A.I. AI will be able to replace worker bees.

The US gov opened an AI office last Dec. It's called the the National Artificial Intelligence Initiative Office (NAIIO) www.ai.gov

The goal of NAIIO is to promote AI across all industries. Let's see, what might be a good way to utilize AI to run all those AI devices? How about...the internet over cell tower?

Then, what if they start making realistic human like AI robots?
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Old 10-31-2021, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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Explain it then? Why is Biden pushing to close down American jobs while keeping the borders open so all these illegals can come in? Need vaccine passports to travel to NY, but's okay for illegals to come in through the Mexican border????
Because it's demoralizing to American citizens.

That's why it's being done.
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Old 10-31-2021, 11:52 AM
 
Location: North Pacific
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imo, the Great Resignation, that has gone global. My only question now is how long can they last, before they have to return to the salt mines? But without the worker bees, no one will be doing anything.

COVID layoffs taught people many things --- and they learned.
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They have a plan for that- automation. And using A.I. AI will be able to replace worker bees.

The US gov opened an AI office last Dec. It's called the the National Artificial Intelligence Initiative Office (NAIIO) www.ai.gov

The goal of NAIIO is to promote AI across all industries. Let's see, what might be a good way to utilize AI to run all those AI devices? How about...the internet over cell tower?

Then, what if they start making realistic human like AI robots?
Yes, I get that, but the one thing I have never understood is whose buying that which is being produced without an income to buy it with --- the AI robot going to earn a wage?
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Old 11-08-2021, 06:09 PM
 
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Because it's demoralizing to American citizens.
That's why it's being done.
Money as an exchange of value will be a remnant of history. The left is all agog of something called MMT, in which "money" will be digital, loaded on to the ATM card according to how much the National Administrators feel you need. Family Services and State Unemployment already have them. As for the old argument that currency control requires discipline, the administrators will have all the discipline that will ever be needed on their belts and slung over their shoulders. Does this sound very much like the fiat system of 14th century royalty and the thousand year rule of the Roman Empire? Give yourself a gold star.
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Old 11-08-2021, 06:32 PM
 
Location: az
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I have watched things taking place that are very out of the ordinary. Cancel Culture, Race Division fueled by the media.


Police and the Border Patrol in regards to controlling the criminal element being demonized constantly. Sports looked at politically. Hollywood spreading hate and division. We see all this and who is behind it? Why does the media lie to us and have certain agendas to brainwash the public? Why are we being transforms and who is directing this and why?


I have watched for years how good is bad and bad is good.


We allow cities being burned and looted. We see political people supporting defunding our police, allowing thousands of illegals in our country without getting tested during a raging pandemic.



We watch our government close down jobs, demonize us for our God given right under the Constitution to have free speech and be a free thinker.



This is what is happening. The Great Reset. The Transformation of the United States into a Global Entity with no flag, no culture,no identity, no country, no Constitution. Just global citizens with no say in anything.


The Great Reset.


https://endtimestruth.com/the-great-reset/

My wife (59) and I (63) will be fine. Medicare/Social Security. No problem. I'd say we've still got a ways to go before life completely falls apart in some cities around the country. Defund the police?

Ends with hiring a "Snake Plissken" type bodyguard to get you in and out of town.
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Old 11-08-2021, 08:20 PM
 
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I’m sure endtimestruth.com is a reliable source of news.
Actually just watching plain old news is enough.
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Old 11-08-2021, 09:55 PM
 
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Yes, I get that, but the one thing I have never understood is whose buying that which is being produced without an income to buy it with --- the AI robot going to earn a wage?
Robots don't earn wages but the products they make will be on the market for sale.

However, the very long term plan might be to have AI robots do all our work, and make all our products! Super AI robots will produce all products and grow all food. And, they will produce and maintain themselves. The will be experts at whatever task they are created for.

Here's how this could happen. First they introduce the 'smart' robot clerk, that can work like a cashier. These will look human-like but easy to see they are robots. These 'smart' robots will get even smarter, in fact so intelligent they can be used as construction workers (search youtube for robot that constructs walls for a house), as house workers, mechanics, etc. Then, they will be so intelligent they can be teachers and professors. They will know all text books and have all the answers.

The plan is get the public to accept AI robots in society because they are so helpful and intelligent, and have all the answers. Not only that, they will be stronger, run faster, and can save lives in dangerous situations, and know how to do CPR.

Once the public accepts these AI robots as helpful to society the next step is to make them ultra human realistic. So realistic you can't tell them apart from humans. At this point the AI super realistic robots could even become surrogate parents! Which would be acceptable to public when a parent dies and that child needs their parent. That surrogate android will be EXACTLY like the lost parent! In fact, super realistic androids could raise children as good, or even better then real parents!

This is a scenario maybe 100+ years from now. Sounds amazing but here's the problem. Why wouldn't the elite use them to further their reset plan? What if the plan is to get AI robots making all products and growing all our food, and delivering them to you so that no human would even have to earn a living or have a career, or make money? Money will be obsolete. Borders will be obsolete. No one would need a higher education. Why? Because the AI robots will produce, grow, research, and maintain whatever people need and want.

Once AI robots are providing everything, the only thing left is making sure earth's resources are not depleted, but kept renewable, and that will require a certain population level that will not exceed what AI can maintain and produce from earth's resources. Some method will be implemented to maintain the population up to sustainable level, and no further.

Is this the grand plan utopia to have AI androids serving mankind, and maintaining law and order and peace? AI will know everything that is happening in all places and will prevent any kind of conflict.

What might happen is that a large percent of people will not accept this AI utopia. Even though they have a provided place to live and food to eat, they will want to be 'free' from the AI control. Freedom to live, produce, and create without the global elite's AI utopia. There could be a revolt.

At this point the elite will limit any revolt and isolated them to certain places, and at a minimum population, so they can't stop the AI utopia. At some point the elite may decide to execute a re-education plan to end the revolt for good.

If that happens the elites will decide to us AI to raise generations of people having no knowledge of what is happening. They can't know what AI is, or that androids are not real humans. To do this will require raising most children without a higher education- no science, history, math, geography, etc. Just enough education to live and be 'happy' within the AI utopia and town they live in. These children will grow up thinking the AI human-like androids are really humans, that serve and provide for them all their lives.

The purpose of the elites running the AI utopia is to make sure AI utopia is running smoothly around the planet. Only a small percent of children will be raised as an elite, and these selected children will receive a higher education, know what's going on, and become the next generation of elites running the AI utopia.

This is what could happen if AI is allowed to 'serve' humans. It could become so effective at what it does to produce products and services, some group could take control of AI and run the world as they want.
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Old 11-09-2021, 05:34 AM
 
Location: North Pacific
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Robots don't earn wages but the products they make will be on the market for sale.

However, the very long term plan might be to have AI robots do all our work, and make all our products! Super AI robots will produce all products and grow all food. And, they will produce and maintain themselves. The will be experts at whatever task they are created for.

Here's how this could happen. First they introduce the 'smart' robot clerk, that can work like a cashier. These will look human-like but easy to see they are robots. These 'smart' robots will get even smarter, in fact so intelligent they can be used as construction workers (search youtube for robot that constructs walls for a house), as house workers, mechanics, etc. Then, they will be so intelligent they can be teachers and professors. They will know all text books and have all the answers.

The plan is get the public to accept AI robots in society because they are so helpful and intelligent, and have all the answers. Not only that, they will be stronger, run faster, and can save lives in dangerous situations, and know how to do CPR.

Once the public accepts these AI robots as helpful to society the next step is to make them ultra human realistic. So realistic you can't tell them apart from humans. At this point the AI super realistic robots could even become surrogate parents! Which would be acceptable to public when a parent dies and that child needs their parent. That surrogate android will be EXACTLY like the lost parent! In fact, super realistic androids could raise children as good, or even better then real parents!

This is a scenario maybe 100+ years from now. Sounds amazing but here's the problem. Why wouldn't the elite use them to further their reset plan? What if the plan is to get AI robots making all products and growing all our food, and delivering them to you so that no human would even have to earn a living or have a career, or make money? Money will be obsolete. Borders will be obsolete. No one would need a higher education. Why? Because the AI robots will produce, grow, research, and maintain whatever people need and want.

Once AI robots are providing everything, the only thing left is making sure earth's resources are not depleted, but kept renewable, and that will require a certain population level that will not exceed what AI can maintain and produce from earth's resources. Some method will be implemented to maintain the population up to sustainable level, and no further.

Is this the grand plan utopia to have AI androids serving mankind, and maintaining law and order and peace? AI will know everything that is happening in all places and will prevent any kind of conflict.

What might happen is that a large percent of people will not accept this AI utopia. Even though they have a provided place to live and food to eat, they will want to be 'free' from the AI control. Freedom to live, produce, and create without the global elite's AI utopia. There could be a revolt.

At this point the elite will limit any revolt and isolated them to certain places, and at a minimum population, so they can't stop the AI utopia. At some point the elite may decide to execute a re-education plan to end the revolt for good.

If that happens the elites will decide to us AI to raise generations of people having no knowledge of what is happening. They can't know what AI is, or that androids are not real humans. To do this will require raising most children without a higher education- no science, history, math, geography, etc. Just enough education to live and be 'happy' within the AI utopia and town they live in. These children will grow up thinking the AI human-like androids are really humans, that serve and provide for them all their lives.

The purpose of the elites running the AI utopia is to make sure AI utopia is running smoothly around the planet. Only a small percent of children will be raised as an elite, and these selected children will receive a higher education, know what's going on, and become the next generation of elites running the AI utopia.

This is what could happen if AI is allowed to 'serve' humans. It could become so effective at what it does to produce products and services, some group could take control of AI and run the world as they want.
Still does not answer the question. Who is buying the products and services from the robots if humans who earn a wage do not have a job to go to? AI would have to be classified as human and earn a wage and have purchasing power. Buy clothes, cars, fast food --- humans become extinct; AI inherits the world.
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Old 11-09-2021, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Robots don't earn wages but the products they make will be on the market for sale.

However, the very long term plan might be to have AI robots do all our work, and make all our products! Super AI robots will produce all products and grow all food. And, they will produce and maintain themselves. The will be experts at whatever task they are created for.

Here's how this could happen. First they introduce the 'smart' robot clerk, that can work like a cashier. These will look human-like but easy to see they are robots. These 'smart' robots will get even smarter, in fact so intelligent they can be used as construction workers (search youtube for robot that constructs walls for a house), as house workers, mechanics, etc. Then, they will be so intelligent they can be teachers and professors. They will know all text books and have all the answers.

The plan is get the public to accept AI robots in society because they are so helpful and intelligent, and have all the answers. Not only that, they will be stronger, run faster, and can save lives in dangerous situations, and know how to do CPR.

Once the public accepts these AI robots as helpful to society the next step is to make them ultra human realistic. So realistic you can't tell them apart from humans. At this point the AI super realistic robots could even become surrogate parents! Which would be acceptable to public when a parent dies and that child needs their parent. That surrogate android will be EXACTLY like the lost parent! In fact, super realistic androids could raise children as good, or even better then real parents!

This is a scenario maybe 100+ years from now. Sounds amazing but here's the problem. Why wouldn't the elite use them to further their reset plan? What if the plan is to get AI robots making all products and growing all our food, and delivering them to you so that no human would even have to earn a living or have a career, or make money? Money will be obsolete. Borders will be obsolete. No one would need a higher education. Why? Because the AI robots will produce, grow, research, and maintain whatever people need and want.

Once AI robots are providing everything, the only thing left is making sure earth's resources are not depleted, but kept renewable, and that will require a certain population level that will not exceed what AI can maintain and produce from earth's resources. Some method will be implemented to maintain the population up to sustainable level, and no further.

Is this the grand plan utopia to have AI androids serving mankind, and maintaining law and order and peace? AI will know everything that is happening in all places and will prevent any kind of conflict.

What might happen is that a large percent of people will not accept this AI utopia. Even though they have a provided place to live and food to eat, they will want to be 'free' from the AI control. Freedom to live, produce, and create without the global elite's AI utopia. There could be a revolt.

At this point the elite will limit any revolt and isolated them to certain places, and at a minimum population, so they can't stop the AI utopia. At some point the elite may decide to execute a re-education plan to end the revolt for good.

If that happens the elites will decide to us AI to raise generations of people having no knowledge of what is happening. They can't know what AI is, or that androids are not real humans. To do this will require raising most children without a higher education- no science, history, math, geography, etc. Just enough education to live and be 'happy' within the AI utopia and town they live in. These children will grow up thinking the AI human-like androids are really humans, that serve and provide for them all their lives.

The purpose of the elites running the AI utopia is to make sure AI utopia is running smoothly around the planet. Only a small percent of children will be raised as an elite, and these selected children will receive a higher education, know what's going on, and become the next generation of elites running the AI utopia.

This is what could happen if AI is allowed to 'serve' humans. It could become so effective at what it does to produce products and services, some group could take control of AI and run the world as they want.
oK.. ARE THE ROBOTS going to buy the products with their wages? What will Americans do? Robots will make more robots and we will have no worth so we will be killed off and the ruling class will only exist.
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