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I've seen the pictures and heard the stories of those on the ground.
And at least my friends have the balls to go and do a job. They are amazing men and I'm thankful for them and their families.
Your friends sit in camps, fortresses. They rarely leave them and when they do they get shot up. The Taliban rule the countryside. I'm not thankful, they're allowing me to be ripped off, enabling the looting of my tax dollars and the deaths of many thousands of innocents. They support an utterly corrupt government that allows its people to waste away in poverty. The people actually prefer the Taliban.
Tell your friends what you will. There's no respect for them from me and mine.
Your friends sit in camps, fortresses. They rarely leave them and when they do they get shot up. The Taliban rule the countryside. I'm not thankful, they're allowing me to be ripped off, enabling the looting of my tax dollars and the deaths of many thousands of innocents. They support an utterly corrupt government that allows its people to waste away in poverty. The people actually prefer the Taliban.
Tell your friends what you will. There's no respect for them from me and mine.
Then tell me how my husband lost his life again? What about his friend being shot and the Afghani troop being injured during the same time. BTW they killed all the f-ers. If they sat in places, then he wouldn't have died, his friend being shot nor the Afghani soldier being shot. Want to try that again?
Well like in almost everything America tries along these lines it has failed. Leave them to their own devices, it may take decades, even centuries, but they will change. One big reason they are in such a state is because of foreign peoples meddling in their affairs.
They've been killing each other there for over a few thousands years. You mean those affairs?
Naw. lol! They work side by side with Afghan forces including training them.
lol indeed. The people who live there have not invited them in. If our govt invited Chinese troops here, would you regard them as trespassers or legitimate occupiers?
And another point (because you seem like the type that belives its an authority) , your constitution makes no provision for US troops to occupy foreign soil, invited or not.
It is guaranteed that when (or if) we leave Afghanistan, the Taliban will gain similar control of the country they had pre-2001.
No one will ever fully control Afghanistan, because it’s not a real country. It’s just a bunch of (historically nomadic) clans and tribes that hate each other and have been fighting for centuries. This will never stop.
But the Taliban will regain the majority control of the country, perhaps as much as 60-70%.
So when the Taliban regains control, there will be retribution. Anybody who helped the Americans may very well end up being executed. Women will be thrown back into servitude, unable to go to school and unable to get a job. Jihadists training camps will again someday operate with impunity. The Chinese and the Russians will move back in and exploit the natural resources. The opium trade will boom once again, although to be honest, it’s probably booming right now.
I know some people in America will say, “Not our problem”, and I agree with them on certain levels. We have wasted enough manpower, capital, money, and lives in AFG to last many lifetimes.
On the other hand, I do feel sorry for the people who have joined us for the last 20 years trying to make Afghanistan a better country moving forward. True, many people in Afghanistan are “mouth breathers”, but many others are highly functioning people who want to live like other countries in the region do.
So what is the right answer? Should we stay or go? The truth of the matter is that there is no clear cut right answer here. It’s damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
Democrats solution for abandoning Afghanistan? I’m sure it will be to increase Afghan immigration into the US. As if we need more Afghanis in the country that fundamentally hate us.
It is guaranteed that when (or if) we leave Afghanistan, the Taliban will gain similar control of the country they had pre-2001.{snip}
It's taken 20 years to finally shake off the hope of the Bush admin, that if we just show the wonders of individual freedom and natural Rights to the savages living in backwards Islamic nations, they will embrace it, and join the rest of the advanced and enlightened world.
Some people liked the 1400s, and never want to embrace the age of enlightenment. So let them have it.
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