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Old 04-29-2021, 02:47 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Speegleagle View Post
It is irrelevant.

Had the noose been. Around Pence’’s neck , and she was ready to open the. Trap door, then she could be shot. A clear and defined reason.

Mere words can not institute a deadly response. Unless those words are a justifiable reason, to defend oneself. The Capitol Police Officer. Was not in harm’’s way from a small unarmed woman.

You still don’t get it. It wasn’t a home.
And the part about the Constitutional issues appears to be way over your head.

Read The Applicable Amendments
The Capitol Police officer was in harm's way if many more "trespassers" were to gain access to the building. And it certainly was Ashli Babbitt's family to assist those many more "trespassers" to gain access.

 
Old 04-29-2021, 02:51 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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............
Trespassing is not enough to be shot dead. ...
That's not what happened. Breaking and entering - that's what happened.

Breaking and entering an occupied dwelling gets people killed all the time.
 
Old 04-29-2021, 02:52 PM
 
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Unarmed citizens are shot by law enforcement almost daily.

This lawsuit is based on....nothing. Ashli Babbitt participated in a violent effort to invade the Capital in an attempt to subvert our government proceeding with a lawful election. The building was barricaded and locked. Some of the participants in the riot were armed. The police weren't just protecting a building, they were protecting the people who were there legally, who were there to fulfill their obligations as elected officials. Trying to prevent those people from fulfilling their obligations, to the point of violence, can result in violence and even death. Ashli Babbitt's family has an uphill battle on this one.
When citizens are shot and killed by Police, Government Officials, there needs to be due process to settle the matter. That is in the Constitution. The Constitution is the prevailing Law .

Your summary is an opinion. The FACTS would emerge during due process. That’s why The Framers put it in there.

Less uphill then you think.
 
Old 04-29-2021, 02:55 PM
 
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Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge View Post
Unarmed citizens are shot by law enforcement almost daily.

This lawsuit is based on....nothing. Ashli Babbitt participated in a violent effort to invade the Capital in an attempt to subvert our government proceeding with a lawful election. The building was barricaded and locked. Some of the participants in the riot were armed. The police weren't just protecting a building, they were protecting the people who were there legally, who were there to fulfill their obligations as elected officials. Trying to prevent those people from fulfilling their obligations, to the point of violence, can result in violence and even death. Ashli Babbitt's family has an uphill battle on this one.
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That's not what happened. Breaking and entering - that's what happened.

Breaking and entering an occupied dwelling gets people killed all the time.
There hasn’t been any legally binding decision regarding the conduct of Ashli that day. Opinions, speculation is all that has been stated.

And that’s because there hasn’t ‘been any due process. See how that works ??
 
Old 04-29-2021, 03:27 PM
 
Location: FL
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Originally Posted by Speegleagle View Post
It is irrelevant.

Had the noose been. Around Pence’’s neck , and she was ready to open the. Trap door, then she could be shot. A clear and defined reason.

Mere words can not institute a deadly response. Unless those words are a justifiable reason, to defend oneself. The Capitol Police Officer. Was not in harm’’s way from a small unarmed woman.

You still don’t get it. It wasn’t a home.
And the part about the Constitutional issues appears to be way over your head.

Read The Applicable Amendments
She broke into the Capital and was not invited in. She was crawling through a broken window.
 
Old 04-29-2021, 03:28 PM
 
Location: FL
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Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge View Post
Unarmed citizens are shot by law enforcement almost daily.

This lawsuit is based on....nothing. Ashli Babbitt participated in a violent effort to invade the Capital in an attempt to subvert our government proceeding with a lawful election. The building was barricaded and locked. Some of the participants in the riot were armed. The police weren't just protecting a building, they were protecting the people who were there legally, who were there to fulfill their obligations as elected officials. Trying to prevent those people from fulfilling their obligations, to the point of violence, can result in violence and even death. Ashli Babbitt's family has an uphill battle on this one.
Well said.
 
Old 04-29-2021, 03:33 PM
 
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She broke into the Capital and was not invited in. She was crawling through a broken window.
Irrelevant. Opinion.
Once again. The Government can not deprive her of her life without due process.
Read the Constitution..
 
Old 04-29-2021, 03:55 PM
 
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She broke into the Capital and was not invited in. She was crawling through a broken window.
You got that part right. Summarily killed for crawling unarmed into a door window of a public building in the middle of day. That doesn't qualify as killing in self defense.

The DOJ is going to totally protect its extra special VIP officer, but if it had any integrity would at least pay the family for his reckless killing.
 
Old 04-29-2021, 03:58 PM
 
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This forum is absolutely insane. I've never seen people actually defending her before.
 
Old 04-29-2021, 04:06 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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What excuse?

You are referencing a report. I am pointing out that the report is written by the police, who may have an agenda.
Now it's may have? What happened to your claim of "the police put together a report that puts the police in the best possible light", aka, the cops lied.
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