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They’re allowed to do what Nebraska or Maine does. They don’t have the right to change the result of the state’s vote. So it Michigan votes red they can’t give all their votes to the Dem candidate simply because that person won the national popular vote
They absolutely can. The Constitution affords the states plenary power to determine how their electors are chosen. It would be constitutional if a state law was passed designating that the electors would be allocated to the winner of a coin flip.
They absolutely can. The Constitution affords the states plenary power to determine how their electors are chosen. It would be constitutional if a state law was passed designating that the electors would be allocated to the winner of a coin flip.
You really believe that we would allow someone to win an election who didn’t win it? That’s the most ridiculous thing I ever heard. There would be zero purpose in anyone voting in those states if we operated that way as 50% of the votes basically would be tossed in the garbage
You really believe that we would allow someone to win an election who didn’t win it? That’s the most ridiculous thing I ever heard. There would be zero purpose in anyone voting in those states if we operated that way as 50% of the votes basically would be tossed in the garbage
Now you’re asking about a value judgment though. We were just discussing the constitutionality of the idea.
Since we’ve finally agreed on that, we can now move on to value judgments.
If we change the rules of the election, then your “winning who did not win it” does not apply, they would be winning it under the new rules, just as Trump won under the current rules in 2016 even though plenty of people were salty about it since he lost the popular vote.
It’s basically is inferred by the entire election narrative in the constitution. It’s assumed you cannot have a winner of election who didn’t win
The entire election narrative in the Constitution? What narrative?
And if it's assumed you cannot have a winner of election who didn't win, then how did Trump win? He didn't win the popular vote. So you are arguing that the state has to abide by the popular vote within the state, but can ignore the national popular vote???? And of course, the Constitution gives all the power to the state to determine its electors.
You really believe that we would allow someone to win an election who didn’t win it? That’s the most ridiculous thing I ever heard. There would be zero purpose in anyone voting in those states if we operated that way as 50% of the votes basically would be tossed in the garbage
Trump didn't win the popular vote in 2016.
There is zero purpose for many Americans regarding voting for President. Why would someone vote for a Democratic candidate in Oklahoma? Why would someone vote for a Republican candidate in New York? The winner-take-all scenario which most states adopted serves to make the non-dominating party irrelevant in terms of voting for President.
You will make Donald Trump very, very angry if you abolish the electoral college.
It was the way he won in 2016, and the only way he could have won in 2020.
If he decides to run again in 2024, he can't try to mess around with the electoral college again, because so many people got so upset last time, but he will sure need it to win again.
Because all those red states don't have enough Republicans in them all to make up the winner.
The big-city blue states have more Democrats in them and the big number wins a take-it-all with no electoral college blocking the way to minority-number victory.
Demolosihing the electoral college could happen, but if the Republicans wanted the White House again, they would need to convert a hell of a lot of dedicated Democrats to their cause to do it.
Guessing from the volume of bad names the Republs love to call the Dems, I'm guessing the GOP isn't all that interested in converting any Democrats at all.
When the bad guys outnumber the good guys from inside the village, then who are the bad guys? Those inside the village, or those outside, lurking in the hills?
It all depends on who you ask. Controlling the hills doesn't mean much when all the power is down in the village.
No, we want to enfranchise them equally to all other voters in the country, one person, one vote.
You want to preserve the EXTRA enfranchisement the EC currently gives rural voters over city dwellers.
This “one person, one vote” propaganda slogan is no different than “hands up, don’t shoot.” Both are based on a false narrative that cannot be backed up by any cold hard facts.
Btw, good luck in getting this changed since there is no way the Left will get 3/4 of all the States in the Union to agree in changing it.
Our founding fathers were pretty smart and this was put into place to prevent the cities, which their larger populations to “out vote” the rural areas of the then young country.
If you want to see the United States dissolve as a country, try to pull this stunt since that would be the only way the country would brake into two separate countries.
This “one person, one vote” propaganda slogan is no different than “hands up, don’t shoot.” Both are based on a false narrative that cannot be backed up by any cold hard facts.
Btw, good luck in getting this changed since there is no way the Left will get 3/4 of all the States in the Union to agree in changing it.
Our founding fathers were pretty smart and this was put into place to prevent the cities, which their larger populations to “out vote” the rural areas of the then young country.
If you want to see the United States dissolve as a country, try to pull this stunt since that would be the only way the country would brake into two separate countries.
This “one person, one vote” is pure BS.
One person one vote is exactly the proposal.
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