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Old 04-26-2021, 05:27 PM
 
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I would propose that electoral college votes(and house reps) be switched to be based on voter turnout numbers rather than outright census numbers. After all if you don't care, you don't care right? And puts an end to any vote suppression nonsense and gets parties pushing participation.
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Old 04-26-2021, 05:30 PM
 
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so the Dems are going to hit the "racist" angle one more time, and see if it still works.

Hey you - over there - in Texas. You're a racist! And you - Jowel in NC - do you wanna be a racist, or not?
That's the history. You seem to not know it? But defenders call people out for not knowing it while falsely thinking it was about small state vs big state representation?

That was not the case, at all.

But don't feel bad, I was taught it was a small state vs big state thing in my southern elementary school too.
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Old 04-26-2021, 05:32 PM
 
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I honestly don't want a D candidate who loses the popular vote to become president, I think that undermines the trust in their leadership of all Americans to some extent, if they couldn't even win the most votes.

Also, 37% of Rs and R leaning independents also support moving to the popular vote.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...toral-college/

I just find what you said hard to believe. Democrats are Power hungry on steroids
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Old 04-26-2021, 05:44 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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so the Dems are going to hit the "racist" angle one more time, and see if it still works.

Hey you - over there - in Texas. You're a racist! And you - Jowel in NC - do you wanna be a racist, or not?
I have no idea what you're talking about.

Anyway, it's interesting to see which other countries use an electoral college system or some modified system of this (Burma, Burundi, Estonia, India, Madagascar, Nepal, Pakistan, Trinidad and Tobago, Vanuatu, Vatican City, Botswana, Federated States of Micronesia, the Marshall Islands, Nauru, South Africa, and Suriname).

https://people.howstuffworks.com/10-...l-colleges.htm

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...head-of-state/
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Old 04-26-2021, 05:47 PM
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Democrats want to disenfranchise rural voters.

Not surprising. Such a scum party
No, they don't. This is what's happening now with entitled mentality.

Evening the playing field is now called "disenfranchisement".

I'm in the center, and I think it's absurd that central US states with very few voters get two distinct advantages: the same number of senators as very very populous states, and also overrepresentation in the electoral college.

In what was is that at all fair? Why, based on location, do a handful of US voters deserve so much power over other voters?
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Old 04-26-2021, 05:50 PM
 
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Yes, it was to keep the non-slave states from outnumbering the slave states. Everybody knows that.
Depends on where someone grew up/went to school and if they've further read our history. I wasn't taught the true history of the electoral college and the 3/5th compromise growing up in the south. Wasn't until I was in a dod run school while my dad was stationed in Germany that I was first exposed to it.

There's a lot of incorrect history taught in schools. But people raised on it just shout "revisionist history!" when exposed to contradictory information.
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Old 04-26-2021, 05:52 PM
 
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No, we want to enfranchise them equally to all other voters in the country, one person, one vote.

You want to preserve the EXTRA enfranchisement the EC currently gives rural voters over city dwellers.
None exists, we vote by State.
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Old 04-26-2021, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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That's the history. You seem to not know it? But defenders call people out for not knowing it while falsely thinking it was about small state vs big state representation?

That was not the case, at all.

But don't feel bad, I was taught it was a small state vs big state thing in my southern elementary school too.
nono, I'm talking that it's racist today. There is absolutely ZERO racist component to "1 EC vote per Senator + 1 EC vote per Rep".

Unless someone wants to go down the rabbit hole of "it's racist today to want to abolish the EC, since now Blacks have GREATER representation, and you want to get rid of that."

Heck, CA is twice as racist as the country at large. They only have 6% Black population. NC is about 1/2 as racist as the country, and FOUR TIMES less racist than CA, based on % of population that is Black.

OMG, California has 3 of 49 Reps that are Black. How racist is that??!??!?!?!??!??
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Old 04-26-2021, 05:58 PM
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None exists, we vote by State.
And those who live in unpopulated states have more power, per person, than those who live in populated states.

There is no rational reason why Nebraska should have greater say per person as California, TWICE. In the senate, and the EC.

We are a UNITED states, not a group of sovereign countries that are located in close proximity to each other, where the case could be made that each country should deserve equal representation.
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Old 04-26-2021, 06:01 PM
 
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Completely misses the point. The People don't elect the Executive. The States elect the Executive. That's why the manner of choosing electors was left to the state legislatures. They're free to simply allow the governor to choose, have the legislature vote, or have party heads compete in a sack race on the state house lawn.

The People elect Representatives to be their voice on a national level. The President represents the States in running the day to day operations of the federal government (which are supposed to be few)
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