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Old 04-27-2021, 05:49 PM
 
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Doesn't matter.

They say he was executed according to the tape.

The Police should be above that
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Old 04-27-2021, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Couldn't wait for the video I see.

My response is, SO?

If the video shows he was aggressive and did put the cops in danger so be it.
But
If he was just executed from behind then that is a problem.

All the stuff you posted is irrelevant to the issue at hand.


When these things are posted. It's not for anyone but themselves. when a police confrontation ends in someone being killed, whether justified or not, they dig for a criminal background.

This set something off in their head that they can not care. And they can be more comfortable in their side.


In their head, everything is absolutely perfect.

Police are perfect

The justice system is perfect


So anytime someone is done wrong by the government. Well that's just their fault. Because the system is perfect. Nothing to see here.

As far as they're concerned. This guy is a criminal and all criminals should be dead. I mean yeah there is due process, but it doesn't hurt that he's dead. In their view he's better off that way. And if they really had their way we could execute criminals in the street.


They don't believe government overreach would ever come back to haunt them. Because they're law abiding and great citizens. So they don't think they'll ever be slighted by the police.

Germans also believed that all of the of those violations that they condoned against the Jews would only be against the Jews. Until of course it was against other Germans.

So these people really believe that all of these violations by cops will never come back to bite them down the line. I'll be there to tell them "I told you so"
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Old 04-27-2021, 06:25 PM
 
Location: USA
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WRONG! His past is important. You go ahead and pretend it's not.
"A man should not be judged by the color of his skin, but by the the length of his Rap sheet (character)"
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Old 04-27-2021, 06:27 PM
 
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My uncle has a criminal past dealing with drugs and was in prison.
He's been out. He has a house and raised 2 sons. He's living a relatively normal life.


If a cop pulls him over today, does he deserve to die for his past?
Omg. Stop.

I guarantee thats NOT what happened here.
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Old 04-28-2021, 12:13 AM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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My uncle has a criminal past dealing with drugs and was in prison.
He's been out. He has a house and raised 2 sons. He's living a relatively normal life.


If a cop pulls him over today, does he deserve to die for his past?
Not comparable because most likely your uncle would obey the law and listen to the command of a police officer. If he has truly turned his life around, as you said.

That's the main factor in all of these deaths, the criminals refuse to obey a command the officer gave, that isn't the fault of the officer. (Obviously there should be exceptions; if someone is autistic, mentally challenged or deaf.) A police officer would need to respond to them differently, but following a basic command an officer gives, should be expected and if you don't well.... your partly to blame.

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Old 04-28-2021, 12:14 AM
 
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And again the right destroys its own point. There was no pregnant woman at the Floyd robbery.
Floyd robbed people!?!
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Old 04-28-2021, 12:25 AM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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I didn’t realize drug-selling was a capital crime.
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Old 04-28-2021, 12:38 AM
 
Location: Various
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WRONG! His past is important. You go ahead and pretend it's not.
Sure, it's hugely important.

But don't you want to wait to see the video before you imply this was a proper use of deadly force?
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Old 04-28-2021, 08:15 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Sure, it's hugely important.

But don't you want to wait to see the video before you imply this was a proper use of deadly force?

A reasonable stance/post. Reps to you!
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Old 04-28-2021, 09:07 AM
 
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Okay, so you dont feel a person's past actions reflects on the their current actions.

Fair enough! That means you feel the same applies to Police officers, correct?
Often police past behaviors are exempt from criminal proceedings if they are not a part of the same incident. George Floyd's case just illustrated this. George Floyd's past history was allowed but Derek Chuvin's past record was not admissible per the court.

In essence, what you describe is the system we have. We ignore the cop's behavior prior to the specific incident. Again if the video shows the cops executed the guy then the past stuff is irrelevant.

Police are not judges, juries, and executioners as much as it seems they believe themselves to be.

In what other profession do we let high school graduates with 4 weeks of training make a call on who should be killed without due process and without risk to their life?

Your Logic:
Why serve a warrant? Just walk up, confirm ID, and shoot immediately, forget the entire Justice system process at that point.

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