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Old 04-27-2021, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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They weren’t absurd at all.
Yes, they are.

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I’m surprised you’ve never heard about this.

https://newsrescue.com/doctors-forme...o-infertility/
It is pseudoscience of the highest order.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKBN2A42S7

"The claims that these mRNA vaccines will cause the immune system to attack syncytin-1 are unfounded. Syncytin-1 is not contained in the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein and the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein and syncytin-1 are not very similar.

Pfizer spokesperson Dervila Keane confirmed to Reuters by email previous reports (here) that the protein targeted by their vaccine only shared a sequence of four amino acids with syncytin-1, which is too short to cause autoimmunity problems."

The author of this article is Professor Catherine Thornton, Professor of Human Immunology at Swansea University in Wales, UK. She studies immunological adaptation in pregnancy and antenatal determinants of immune health in childhood, including study of the placenta in health and in adverse obstetric conditions.

https://www.news24.com/health24/medi...rtile-20210203
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Old 04-27-2021, 08:50 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Yes, they are.



It is pseudoscience of the highest order.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKBN2A42S7

"The claims that these mRNA vaccines will cause the immune system to attack syncytin-1 are unfounded. Syncytin-1 is not contained in the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein and the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein and syncytin-1 are not very similar.

Pfizer spokesperson Dervila Keane confirmed to Reuters by email previous reports (here) that the protein targeted by their vaccine only shared a sequence of four amino acids with syncytin-1, which is too short to cause autoimmunity problems."

The author of this article is Professor Catherine Thornton, Professor of Human Immunology at Swansea University in Wales, UK. She studies immunological adaptation in pregnancy and antenatal determinants of immune health in childhood, including study of the placenta in health and in adverse obstetric conditions.

https://www.news24.com/health24/medi...rtile-20210203
The author of the quoted post is suzy_q, who believes it's normal and appropriate for a fully vaccinated, healthy human being to wear a cloth mask alone in a car or alone outdoors.
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Old 04-27-2021, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Sad a school would be so ignorant to put a statement out like that.
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Old 04-27-2021, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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The author of the quoted post is suzy_q, who believes it's normal and appropriate for a fully vaccinated, healthy human being to wear a cloth mask alone in a car or alone outdoors.
I have not commented on wearing a mask outdoors.

I wear a mask while I am running errands: put it on, complete my errands, then remove it and sanitize my hands. That minimizes touching the mask. It means that I am wearing the mask in my car as I go from one business to another.

It is the smart way to use a mask. It has nothing to do with thinking I might be exposed while I am alone in the car.

From 3M, you know, the people who make the masks.

https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/...sk-article.pdf

"Don’t take your face mask on and off. Once your mask is on, keep it on. Even if you are just getting back in your car between errands, removing your mask can get it dirty and allow potentially harmful particulates near your nose and mouth when you put it on again.."
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Old 04-28-2021, 12:38 AM
 
Location: El paso,tx
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If you read my post you would understand that it doesnt matter.

The vaccine is classified as experimental.

If any problem does not occur at the moment you are taking the vaccine, no one - no governing body - NOTHING can prove the vaccine is responsible - no scientific research, no evidence nothing! Its impossible.

Its not impossible for a drug or vaccine to cause a problem - its just impossible to prove that a mRNA vaccine caused a problem.
And since any scientists that don't ho along with the party line are banned and censored from all social media, mainstream media, youtube, etc, there is no healthy debate going on about covid, treatments, or vaccines.
Science is always evolving. And what scientists may believe at some point can change later on. Drs gave Thalidomide to pregnant women, believing it was safe.
Radium was touted as safe and used in makeup in the 1920's and watches were made using radium so they would glow in the dark. Science and the govt said it was safe. Even protected the watch companies from being liable. Google " Radium girls"..
Crestor was deemed safe by doctors and the FDA. So was Zantac. Cigarettes were touted as safe for years. Red dye #9 was touted as safe.
Animal studies using mrna vaccines for corona were stopped during animal trials, because after vaccination, when exposed to the wild virus 80% of them died.
So people being hesitant about an experimental vaccine being pushed for a disease with a 99.5% survival rate, have every right to be cautious about long term effects. And people pushing people who have had the virus, and now have antibodies, goes completely against science.
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Old 04-28-2021, 01:04 AM
 
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Interesting that vaccinated people can shed coronavirus spike protein at all.

“Recipients of the vaccines do not ‘shed’ significant amounts of coronavirus spike protein after vaccination,” says Dr. Lawler. “Spike protein is primarily made locally in muscle where the vaccine is administered and may possibly be seen in low levels in the blood. But it should not be shed in significant quantity in respiratory or other secretions.”
https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/th...otein-shedding
Interesting. A friend of mine is a director of nursing in some Michigan hospital. They have been seeing more and more cases of blood clots in vaccinated people, weeks or even 1-2 months after the 2nd shot. She is urging everyone to take aspirin for a period of time before and after they get the vaccine.

Spike proteins in the blood would explain it, if your body launches an immune response to fight them in the blood, that could lead to blood clots in some. If it goes to the heart, a heart attack. To the brain, a stroke.
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Old 04-28-2021, 01:08 AM
 
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A "spike protein" is not a virus and cannot infect anyone.
A "spike protein" is a foreign substance, and if your body launches an immune response against it, it can kill you. It's not Sars-Cov-2 that kills you, it just uses your cells to replicate. It's your immune system trying to get rid of it that kills you (or few I should add).

Foreign proteins cause all sorts of problems in our body, blood stream. A prion is afterall a protein that can result in you getting CJD.

Stop talking about things you don't understand.
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Old 04-28-2021, 02:33 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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And since any scientists that don't ho along with the party line are banned and censored from all social media, mainstream media, youtube, etc, there is no healthy debate going on about covid, treatments, or vaccines.
Science is always evolving. And what scientists may believe at some point can change later on. Drs gave Thalidomide to pregnant women, believing it was safe.
Radium was touted as safe and used in makeup in the 1920's and watches were made using radium so they would glow in the dark. Science and the govt said it was safe. Even protected the watch companies from being liable. Google " Radium girls"..
Crestor was deemed safe by doctors and the FDA. So was Zantac. Cigarettes were touted as safe for years. Red dye #9 was touted as safe.
Animal studies using mrna vaccines for corona were stopped during animal trials, because after vaccination, when exposed to the wild virus 80% of them died.
So people being hesitant about an experimental vaccine being pushed for a disease with a 99.5% survival rate, have every right to be cautious about long term effects. And people pushing people who have had the virus, and now have antibodies, goes completely against science.
It's OK to go against the party line if you have sound science to challenge it. The "scientists" who are being "censored" should better be called pseudoscientists. Social media sites have no obligation to provide a platform for the spread of misinformation. The idea that every "side" should be given equal weight in a discussion of vaccines is an example of false equivalence.

Yes, science evolves.

Thalidomide was never approved for use in pregnant women in the US. The experience with it led to improvements in the FDA evaluation process.

Yes, it took time to show radium use as you describe it was not safe.

Red dye # 9 was discontinued on the basis of animal studies, not demonstrated effects in humans.

Yes, it took time to determine the risks of tobacco.

All of the above are just deflections attempting to make it look like there are serious problems with the vaccines. There are not. Even if every single adverse reaction reported for the vaccine were to be proved to be caused by the vaccines, and they are not, they are dwarfed by the bad things the virus is doing.

The current mRNA COVID-19 vaccines were engineered to avoid the earlier problems and do not cause them, as demonstrated in animal trials and by their absence in the phase 3 trials and during the current vaccine rollout for the general public. The COVID-19 vaccines do not produce the type of immune response that the earlier vaccines did.

Vaccination is recommended for those who have already had COVID-19 as a booster, because it is not known how long protection derived from the infection will last.

https://theconversation.com/why-you-...navirus-155712

The author studies the immune response to vaccines. He says,

"A person can develop immunity – the ability to resist infection – from being infected with a virus or from getting a vaccine. However, immune protection isn’t always equal. The strength of the immune response, the length of time that the protection lasts and the variation of the immune response across people is very different between vaccine immunity and natural immunity for SARS–CoV–2. COVID–19 vaccines offer safer and more reliable immunity than natural infection."

"The problem is that not everyone will develop immunity after a SARS-CoV-2 infection. As many as 9% of infected people do not have detectable antibodies, and up to 7% of people don’t have T cells that recognize the virus 30 days after infection."
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Old 04-28-2021, 02:36 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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A "spike protein" is a foreign substance, and if your body launches an immune response against it, it can kill you. It's not Sars-Cov-2 that kills you, it just uses your cells to replicate. It's your immune system trying to get rid of it that kills you (or few I should add).

Foreign proteins cause all sorts of problems in our body, blood stream. A prion is afterall a protein that can result in you getting CJD.

Stop talking about things you don't understand.
If the virus were not there, there would be no replication.
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Old 04-28-2021, 04:16 AM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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some private schools do weird things..dumbasses..
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