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Old 05-01-2021, 07:13 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Originally Posted by TheGoodTheBadTheUgly View Post
Close shop or ?

Well, I guess you'll have to start working harder yourself and stop wasting time complaining.

 
Old 05-01-2021, 07:18 AM
 
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Well, I guess you'll have to start working harder yourself and stop wasting time complaining.
That and reduce headcount
 
Old 05-01-2021, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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And $2.90 in 1979 adjusted for inflation is $11.16. The current minimum wage is $7.25.


Assuming that's accurate.....

It's still irrelevant. (And if I remember correctly, minimum wage was raised shortly afterwards to $3.25 anyways)


Again, people don't stay at the same rung of the economic ladder their whole lives.

When I was washing dishes for 2.90 in 79, I was a teenager, living at home.

I had virtually no expenses whatsoever. All the money I made that summer went into buying my first motorcycle.

That's what minimum wage jobs are for.

You gain work experience, while the employer doesn't have to pay a zero skills temporary worker more than the market allows for a given job.

That dynamic allows you to demand higher pay in your next position while keeping costs low for employers and their customers.

News Flash:

Your not supposed to be trying to support a family, or even yourself entirely on minimum wage.

That's not how it works.
 
Old 05-01-2021, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Its funny how conservatives always say this when the topic is about paying the little guy. Yet when the federal govt bails out big businesses all we hear is crickets.


actually the conservatives have been against all the bailouts..its the fascist liberals that have pushed, and pushed for bailouts
 
Old 05-01-2021, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Originally Posted by FatBob96 View Post
Assuming that's accurate.....

It's still irrelevant. (And if I remember correctly, minimum wage was raised shortly afterwards to $3.25 anyways)


Again, people don't stay at the same rung of the economic ladder their whole lives.

When I was washing dishes for 2.90 in 79, I was a teenager, living at home.

I had virtually no expenses whatsoever. All the money I made that summer went into buying my first motorcycle.

That's what minimum wage jobs are for.

You gain work experience, while the employer doesn't have to pay a zero skills temporary worker more than the market allows for a given job.

That dynamic allows you to demand higher pay in your next position while keeping costs low for employers and their customers.

News Flash:

Your not supposed to be trying to support a family, or even yourself entirely on minimum wage.

That's not how it works.
That’s what you believe they are for.
Not the original intent.

“ When he introduced the federal minimum wage in 1933, President Franklin D Roosevelt said, “No business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country. By living wages, I mean more than a bare subsistence level. I mean the wages of a decent living.””

In any event OP, here’s your answer in a nutshell. If your business model is dependent on paying less then “living wages,” time for a new model.

https://theconversation.com/its-time...t-living-34344
 
Old 05-01-2021, 07:48 AM
 
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Well, I guess you'll have to start working harder yourself and stop wasting time complaining.
Or maybe the people with no skills need to work harder by going to night class to learn a trade. And NO....sweeping a floor is not a “skill.”
 
Old 05-01-2021, 07:54 AM
 
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That and reduce headcount
Yup. I gave an example upthread as to how I paid my receptionist $35,000 a year (this was before voice mail took off and phone calls were answered) and my part-timer doing simple work like typing labels for envelopes around $10. (My skilled professional earned $70,000.j What I would have done if I were forced to raise the part-timer to $15 would be to abolish her position, add her duties to the receptionist, offer the receptionist a raise to $40,000.

The result: The receptionist would be very happy with the 15% raise, and I would have saved a few thousand in compensation costs. The only one not happy would be the part-timer, who lost her job.

Now multiply that scenario by 10 or 20 million small businesses, and you’ll see the problem.
 
Old 05-01-2021, 07:54 AM
 
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Or maybe the people with no skills need to work harder by going to night class to learn a trade. And NO....sweeping a floor is not a “skill.”
Is sweeping instinctive?

Did someone teach you how to do it or did you learn by watching? Ever missed a spot?

I'm not saying sweeping is on the same skill level as a vascular surgeon. But sweeping properly is a skill that must be learned. And one must have pride in their work. Trivializing the work it does not help the worker.
 
Old 05-01-2021, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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And $2.90 in 1979 adjusted for inflation is $11.16. The current minimum wage is $7.25.
actually you are fluffing that number...and its a cherry pick


the actual number for 2.90 in 1979 adjusted for todays dollars is $10.58...so why did you fluff it??






the min wage has nearly kept up with inflation, and depending on what year you look at surpassed it
https://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/chart.htm
min wage at start (oct 1938).. $0.25........ in todays dollars (2021) $4.64

min wage 1945....................$0.40..........in todays dollars .......... $5.61

min wage 1984...................$3.35.........in todays dollars...........$8.40

min wage 1993...................$4.25.........in todays dollars...........$7.69

min wage 1999...................$5.15.........in todays dollars...........$8.09
http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
 
Old 05-01-2021, 07:55 AM
 
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Is sweeping instinctive?

Did someone teach you how to do it or did you learn by watching? Ever missed a spot?

I'm not saying sweeping is on the same skill level as a vascular surgeon. But sweeping properly is a skill that must be learned. And one must have pride in their work. Trivializing the work it does not help the worker.
Puh....lease. You are reaching, bigtime.

P.S. One of my first chores was to sweep the floor, at around age 8. My mother showed me how to do it. She worked with me a bit, but after around 10 minutes, I got it down.
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