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Old 05-01-2021, 05:24 PM
 
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You are 65 -- your on your last legs anyway.

As my mom used to say, if Billy and Tommy jumped off a bridge -- would you? Thanks mom, my answer is no.

It seems to me there is a simple solution to this.. pay people to get vaccinated. That is the American way isn't it? I mean the gov't can pay out money or we can do a go fund me ... but with vaccination appointments starting to become plentiful it seems there are a LOT of people that are won't get getting vaccinated.
Last legs indeed. I would kick you if I could stand up.

However, I agree: pay people, or a tax credit. We do have some restaurants and fast-food places offering free dinner with proof of vaccination. Soon, cruise lines will require proof in order to board.

Of course, we now have people getting forged vaccination documents. Some will laugh all the way to the ICU.

 
Old 05-01-2021, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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I work amongst 10,000 persons who have been vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccination both doses. I have not heard any reports of myocarditis.
 
Old 05-01-2021, 06:32 PM
 
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None of the studies included a demo that was vaccinated. All 3 links prove that women who are pregnant and have COVID -- but have never been vaccinated -- are at no risk for early pregnancy loss because of their illness.

You've proven that pregnant women DON'T need the vaccine.
 
Old 05-01-2021, 06:46 PM
 
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And that is why I am waiting. Shame on those who are trying to make me lose my job in order to save my health because they were soo foolish to run out and get the vaccine.
Well, my older brother is a doctor at John’s Hopkins and he got the vaccine and strongly encourages everyone to get it. I don’t think anyone here has read a fraction of the information on this vaccine as he has.
 
Old 05-01-2021, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Oh you mean a virus that is only 1% or less deadly. You betcha.
Yeah ok, It's only killed 3.19 million people so far....It must be harmless.

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Old 05-01-2021, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Originally Posted by Arya Stark View Post
You are 65 -- your on your last legs anyway.

As my mom used to say, if Billy and Tommy jumped off a bridge -- would you? Thanks mom, my answer is no.

It seems to me there is a simple solution to this.. pay people to get vaccinated. That is the American way isn't it? I mean the gov't can pay out money or we can do a go fund me ... but with vaccination appointments starting to become plentiful it seems there are a LOT of people that are won't get getting vaccinated.
65, and on your last legs? What kind of person are you?
 
Old 05-02-2021, 06:20 AM
 
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Another study suggesting the vaccination might not be good for us. If the spike protein causes Endothelial cell damage... then what about all those vaccines creating spikes?

Endothelial cell damage is the central part of COVID-19 and a mouse model induced by injection of the S1 subunit of the spike protein

In sum, the data presented indicates that the full-length S1 subunit of the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2 alone is capable, without the infectious virus, of inducing systemic microendothelial cell damage in mice with a cognate pattern of complement activation and increased cytokine expression and the concomitant thromboses/hypercoagulable state.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7758180/
 
Old 05-02-2021, 06:22 AM
 
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Yeah ok, It's only killed 3.19 million people so far....It must be harmless.
You realize that there are 8 billion people in the world? Do the math.
 
Old 05-02-2021, 06:43 AM
 
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Spanish flu was over 500 million (and there was a much lower population then)

Interestingly I was watching a doc about that last night and it is instructive as to what is happening now.

Turns out it is widely believed that governments erred then by minimizing the threat and counting cases to minimize worry. So of course, now, we are doing the opposite.. overstating the threat and puffing up numbers...

Already my state has announced they are changing the way they count deaths for nursing homes (to lower the covid death numbers) of course this happens when vaccines come out ( so they can claim "vaccines work".)
 
Old 05-02-2021, 06:49 AM
 
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65, and on your last legs? What kind of person are you?
A realist?

Talk about selfish. As you are ending your life and likely to get sick from many other things you want someone just beginning theirs to take an experimental drug no one knows the long term effects of?

The risk for someone young is much greater than the benefit.

But you want them to do it to give you a sense of security? Wow.
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