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Old 04-30-2021, 04:49 PM
 
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West Virginians should be proud their Senator standing up against the democrat socialist agenda

Manchin says he does not support D.C. statehood bill

Sen. Joe Manchin on Friday said that he did not support the D.C. statehood bill, a blow to advocates pushing to make it the 51st state after the legislation passed the House last week.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/manchin-s...151741080.html
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Old 04-30-2021, 05:12 PM
 
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Let's see if he stays the course.

He could continue to say he will vote against it, and the bill will likely fail. If he reverts back to a true politician, he could also say that he is against it. But then at some last-minute backroom session get some nice incentives for his State to change his vote. That is of course if no other Senators come out and say they will vote against it.
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Old 04-30-2021, 05:16 PM
 
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I say: return those D.C. neighborhoods to the surrounding states (Maryland and Virginia) that donated the land, save for the core 'Federal District" containing Congress, the White House, etc.

Indeed, I read where in 1847 Virginia actually took some of their land back, since it wasn't being used.
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Old 04-30-2021, 05:19 PM
 
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Why isn't it a state in the first place?

Because it shouldn't be as it already part of 2 states.
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Old 04-30-2021, 05:25 PM
 
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I was skeptical, am still skeptical, but Joe Manchin just might save us all yet.
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Old 04-30-2021, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Maine
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Why isn't it a state in the first place?
Because it was never supposed to be. Way back when, the founding fathers wanted a place for the government. They decided that place should not belong to any one state as it would cause friction for the country. So in their wisdom they borrowed land from both Virginia and Maryland to create Washington D.C. this way no one state could claim that they held the capitol of the country within it.

What should happen, since the supposed reason for even considering it has to do with the citizens of DC supposedly having no representation, is that the land is returned to Maryland and Virginia except for the property directly underneath and around the various federal buildings themselves. This way, the people living in the surrounding areas get their representation and have a state to call home.

The downfall of that, is it doesn’t give the democrats extra electoral college votes or extra house seats like they would get by making the tiny 20 square miles or less that is DC a state. This is a power grab, pure and simple.
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Old 04-30-2021, 07:51 PM
 
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Because it was never supposed to be. Way back when, the founding fathers wanted a place for the government. They decided that place should not belong to any one state as it would cause friction for the country. So in their wisdom they borrowed land from both Virginia and Maryland to create Washington D.C. this way no one state could claim that they held the capitol of the country within it.

What should happen, since the supposed reason for even considering it has to do with the citizens of DC supposedly having no representation, is that the land is returned to Maryland and Virginia except for the property directly underneath and around the various federal buildings themselves. This way, the people living in the surrounding areas get their representation and have a state to call home.

The downfall of that, is it doesn’t give the democrats extra electoral college votes or extra house seats like they would get by making the tiny 20 square miles or less that is DC a state. This is a power grab, pure and simple.

Depending on the census numbers the additional population from DC into Maryland and Virginia might increase their congressional districts and therefore their electoral college votes.

It would also keep both solidly democratic
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Old 04-30-2021, 08:14 PM
 
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I say: return those D.C. neighborhoods to the surrounding states (Maryland and Virginia) that donated the land, save for the core 'Federal District" containing Congress, the White House, etc.

Indeed, I read where in 1847 Virginia actually took some of their land back, since it wasn't being used.
Yep, pretty simple actually.
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Old 04-30-2021, 08:19 PM
 
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I say: return those D.C. neighborhoods to the surrounding states (Maryland and Virginia) that donated the land, save for the core 'Federal District" containing Congress, the White House, etc.

Indeed, I read where in 1847 Virginia actually took some of their land back, since it wasn't being used.
Maryland and Virginia don't want DC back in them. It would change the entire structure of the state and their politics. DC residents want representation however. Giving them statehood would be the easiest way to satisfy both DC and Virginia/Maryland.
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Old 04-30-2021, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Giving them statehood would be the easiest way to satisfy both DC and Virginia/Maryland.
And seriously anger the rest of the country.

DC is a city. A CITY.

*** A CITY ***

People can move to the next one over. It's literally just a few miles.

This is a non-issue being made into an issue because Democrats want more power. That's it, and anyone claiming otherwise either doesn't understand how the balance of power works in our government or they're also only interested in gaining more power for their party.
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