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Old 05-24-2011, 05:06 PM
 
Location: On the banks of the St Johns River
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No black boxes, no remnants of desks, no file cabinets, no sign of the miles and miles of carpeting, and no phones, no office equipment, no cell phones, no wallets, no purses, no shoes, no IDs of the "thousands" of people, no computers, no chairs, no miles and miles of wiring.

But, I exaggerate, there WAS a shoe or two, and a small piece of a telephone..........therefore I can remain in denial- phew! That was a close call!
You know its amazing ..The truthers have not come up with one picture of the at least 5,000 United Van Lines moving vans that must have been involved in removing all the desks, chairs, phones, computers and filing cabinets from all 250+ floors of the buildings that were destroyed on 9/11. You would think one of these genius's would have said something about the massive traffic jam all those moving vans would have created, on the day before this heinous act occurred.
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Old 05-24-2011, 05:10 PM
 
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You know its amazing ..The truthers have not come up with one picture of the at least 5,000 United Van Lines moving vans that must have been involved in removing all the desks, chairs, phones, computers and filing cabinets from all 250+ floors of the buildings that were destroyed on 9/11. You would think one of these genius's would have said something about the massive traffic jam all those moving vans would have created, on the day before this heinous act occurred.
No one's going to eat powdered Apples.
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Old 05-24-2011, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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You too? Seems like everyone was there and had friends and family die except me and three other people ... imagine that!




Let them eat cake!!!

Now, can you tell us again how nutritious fluoride is .... for those who missed it?
Aren't you in Texas? For some odd reason that's what I thought.

New York is a small town in a lot of ways. 3,000 people dying from the metro area X everyone they were related to or knew--yes, of course most people around here know someone who died. 700 or so of them were from NJ, and just about every town in north Jersey has some kind of memorial to their dead, the most notable being Middletown, which lost 37. Do you really think these towns put up memorials to people who never existed?

Voices of September 11th

Summit 9/11 Memorial | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sheenachi/302265589/ - broken link)

Wyckoff NJ 9/11 Memorial | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sheenachi/343086342/ - broken link)

Teaneck 9/11 Memorial | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sheenachi/389860297/ - broken link)
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Old 05-24-2011, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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No black boxes, no remnants of desks, no file cabinets, no sign of the miles and miles of carpeting, and no phones, no office equipment, no cell phones, no wallets, no purses, no shoes, no IDs of the "thousands" of people, no computers, no chairs, no miles and miles of wiring.

But, I exaggerate, there WAS a shoe or two, and a small piece of a telephone..........therefore I can remain in denial- phew! That was a close call!
This is just silly--why would you even make such a statement? If you're serious, you'd better do your research in better places, dude. There were tons of ID's found in the debris, along with other documents. As a matter of fact, we were given access to a database of 8000 photographs and other personal items recovered from the debris. If you could identify something that was yours, you could claim it.

http://www.911memorial.org/blog/911-...o-tell-stories

The Tribute Center by the WTC site has wallets, shoes, guns, etc., on display, as does the Museum of the City of New York and even the State Museum in Albany, and there is a collection of items going into the National 911 Museum when it's completed.

Recovery — The Sorting Process

"A Mountainous Gray Landscape
The 1.8 million tons of material that was once the World Trade Center was a jumble of human remains; pulverized concrete; bent steel; and burned and mangled office, store, and restaurant contents. A system developed to sift through the piles to retrieve human remains, personal objects, and evidence related to the terrorist attacks."


As a matter of fact, if you look at the photos on the right, that sure looks like a heck of a lot of wire to me.

It's pretty clear from your posts, DD, that outside of conspiracy theory sites, you have never made even a cursory attempt to learn anything about the WTC or the aftermath.
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Old 05-24-2011, 05:32 PM
 
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Default Does Anyone Still Believe the "Official 9-11" Story?

Nope!
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Old 05-24-2011, 05:41 PM
 
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And the miracle passport that flew out of the hijacker's pocket upon impact and safely fluttered to the ground, coming to rest on top of all the debris to be easily found to place immediate blame.
This is the kind of thing that would raise a legitimate question, except that the truthers always have to embellish the story and thereby diminish any serious inquiry. It was reportedly found on the street before the collapses, so it couldn't have landed on top of "all the debris". And the passport was damaged, not "in pristine condition" as some of your sites like to say. It does seem to be a huge coincidence that a hijacker's passport was found, although not out of the realm of possibility. So why not just stick to the facts and go from there?

These are the very things that made me reject the truthers back when I first started to look at the websites. No Jews in the WTC, very little fire in the buildings, all the steel quickly sold off, government/FBI alone did all the sorting and collecting of the debris, Marvin Bush in charge of WTC security, etc., etc., etc. I know that none of those things are true, and I am only one person. There are too many people walking around who know these things are false. If there are legitimate questions that stand on their own, why the need to add in all the false information? What is the point?
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Old 05-24-2011, 05:53 PM
 
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Any DNA identification activity?

Don't you remember all the looong lines of family members waiting to hand over toothbrushes from the dead/missing and/or getting the insides of their cheeks swabbed for DNA matching? The tent morgue set up under the FDR?

At Morgue, Ceaselessly Sifting 9/11 Traces

This stuff was on the news, endlessly, after 9/11. What were some of you doing that you don't remember any of this?

I belonged to a writer's group at the time of which one of the members was a psychologist who was facilitating a families group. She said it got to be really weird--a bunch of people sitting around drinking coffee and eating Entenmann's cake and discussing what parts they'd gotten back. "I got my daughter's hand", "they identified one of my husband's teeth", etc. That was the normal conversation over coffee for these people.
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Old 05-24-2011, 05:59 PM
 
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Fluoride is an essential mineral in any Western fascistic regime.

Over the counter supplements such as fluoride, aluminum, mercury, cesium and radioactive iodine are still legal in the U.S.

Is this a great Homeland, or what!
Are the toothpaste manufacturers in on this, too?
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Old 05-24-2011, 07:15 PM
 
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You know its amazing ..The truthers have not come up with one picture of the at least 5,000 United Van Lines moving vans that must have been involved in removing all the desks, chairs, phones, computers and filing cabinets from all 250+ floors of the buildings that were destroyed on 9/11. You would think one of these genius's would have said something about the massive traffic jam all those moving vans would have created, on the day before this heinous act occurred.
Thinking small- as usual. That's why they didn't ask for your input in the planning.

Companies moved in and out of there frequently over the years. Some floors were rarely to never occupied. Carpeting, furniture etc, is removed all the time from office spaces. Everybody wants to refurbish, companies want to take their equipment with them, time to change the carpet, etc. No one would notice or have a second thought about movers at the WTC. This would happen over a considerable period of time- NOT ONE DAY . This was not planned in a couple of days- but over a period of months and, more likely, years- NO MATTER WHO YOU BELIEVE CARRIED IT OUT.

Are you saying the desks and pcs and phones and carpeting and chairs WERE THERE because after all nobody reported a line of vans moving it out the day before- even though, in fact, these contents were NOT there? You can't be serious.

Continuing on with our thinking process, tin foil hats firmly in place, there was perhaps no recognizable "stuff" because the buildings were PULVERIZED by explosives.

The point is, if the contents weren't there, as they would be under normal brief small "fire with collapse scenario", then where are they or what happened to them? It's just another one of those little items that pulls the miles of carpeting right out from under the official story.

Do you understand this? Let's say your house burns down and you can't find one recognizable item in the debris. Not your stove, not your refrigerator, not your couch- but the stuff (according to your line of reasoning) cannot have been removed prior to the fire because nobody saw a moving truck being loaded over a period of hours in front of your house. Well, the stuff is not there, so it had to either be removed or an agent that pulverizes things had to be used.

There may be other explanations, but clearly, moving trucks or no moving trucks, if the stuff wasn't there- IT WASN'T THERE.

"How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?" ~Sherlock Holmes
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Old 05-24-2011, 07:20 PM
 
Location: NC
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