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suzy - you have your opinion and others don't agree with you. To think you are changing anyone's mind is ridiculous as it's ridiculous for us to change your mind.
The fact that Thalidomide was never approved in the US does not negate the fact that this "Covid vaccine" was pushed through quickly and the clinical trials that would have been done and may have revealed future effects - weren't done. We have no idea what may come down the road.
As a matter of fact - samples of Thalidomide were distributed in the US in clinical trials while waiting approval from the FDA.
Thalidomide is not a good example because it never was approved by the FDA. It was not marketed in the US in 1957 and "pulled" in 1961. In fact, the experience with the drug resulted in changes in the approval process. The upshot of your article is that there was an undercount of the number of affected pregnancies in the US. The product that was distributed was provided outside of even the less stringent FDA process of the time. That is no way comparable to the coronavirus vaccine trials.
The clinical trials were done for the coronavirus vaccines, large ones. The timeline was compressed because some studies were done side by side that previously would have been done sequentially and the amount of money available made it possible to do those large trials. The basic science research on the mRNA vaccines had been carried out over about twenty years. The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines did not just poof into existence in a matter of days. The platform was ready and waiting. In addition, the vaccines went into production before the EUAs were received. That was a big gamble that could have been very expensive it the vaccines had flunked the trials. Finally, FDA red tape was cut.
"What may happen down the road" is never known with a new vaccine. It is impossible to do trials on hundreds of thousands or millions of participants. The cost would be astronomical. Extremely rare adverse reactions will not show up until any vaccine is in widespread use. The vaccines are approved for emergency use because there is an emergency of catastrophic proportions. There is not the option to do ten years of waiting to see if hypothetical highly improbable "long term effects" happen.
Yeah that's how a lot of us feel and why the COVID vaccines have been way too rushed, at least the mrna vaccines which are using such new tech that hasn't been used like this in people before, esp on this scale.y.
New Tech? This technology has been around since the 90's
And never once has been successfully used.. until now? You don't see something wrong with that?
Yes, this is why it was stupid for the USA to rush out a vaccine like this based on tech that's never been tried before at this scale. You can't rush out something like that without proper clinical trials. Like I've said before most of our friends and neighbors get their childhood and other standard vaccines, but most are rejecting the COVID19 mrna vaccine and will never take it, at least not until it has a lot more data, because the difference is the other vaccines are well tested. The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are not.
Maybe if we'd done like most other countries, even Russia, India or China and released a vaccine based on tech that's been used for like 40 years, more Americans would feel safe taking the vaccine. But no, it seems to have been even more important to push up the profits of Big Pharma companies like Pfizer and Modern, failing to realize Americans don't want to be guinea pigs. (And on top, the mrna vaccines were actually developed by European companies originally, in Germany and Switzerland, who just partnered with Pfizer and Moderna, so most of the profits are going to Europe-- makes this whole blunder even stupider). It esp makes no sense at all for low risk people, including young and or healthy adults and esp children, to take a potentially dangerous experimental vaccine like this.
And never once has been successfully used.. until now? You don't see something wrong with that?
No, because there are multiple legitimate reasons. It was difficult to get funding, it was difficult to get mRNA into a cell, and other extremely complicated technical issues.
Yes, this is why it was stupid for the USA to rush out a vaccine like this based on tech that's never been tried before at this scale. You can't rush out something like that without proper clinical trials. Like I've said before most of our friends and neighbors get their childhood and other standard vaccines, but most are rejecting the COVID19 mrna vaccine and will never take it, at least not until it has a lot more data, because the difference is the other vaccines are well tested. The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are not.
Maybe if we'd done like most other countries, even Russia, India or China and released a vaccine based on tech that's been used for like 40 years, more Americans would feel safe taking the vaccine. But no, it seems to have been even more important to push up the profits of Big Pharma companies like Pfizer and Modern, failing to realize Americans don't want to be guinea pigs. (And on top, the mrna vaccines were actually developed by European companies originally, in Germany and Switzerland, who just partnered with Pfizer and Moderna, so most of the profits are going to Europe-- makes this whole blunder even stupider). It esp makes no sense at all for low risk people, including young and or healthy adults and esp children, to take a potentially dangerous experimental vaccine like this.
If people have issues with taking a vaccine with new technology then they can just choose the Johnson and Johnson vaccine that is a traditional vaccine.
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