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Old 05-03-2021, 11:34 AM
 
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Presumably, they're vaccinated. Taking precautions to protect people from a disease that they're vaccinated for is itself unreasonable, so in this case "reasonable precaution" is a nonsensical formulation. Next...
So I have to do what unvaccinated say? I'm not allowed to choose to stick around those that are vaccinated? Who is the real totalitarian? Freedom of association means freedom to associate with those one chooses. If someone blocks a section at an event, they can block it for any designation. Trump supporters could have a Trump supporter section, I would not care about them. Freedom for thee and not for me?
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Old 05-03-2021, 11:35 AM
 
Location: NY
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This type of strategy may look enticing to the extreme safetyists, but when you try to iron out the details, it simply isn't feasible. I'm opposed to it on principle, but due to some vocal and insistent students, we tried to game out what it would look like to have 'vaccinated only ' classes at our fitness business, just as a thought experiment. It's a mess. Not worth it for a small business to even bother re-opening under these conditions. Contrary to the OP's theory, it would not help business. It would hurt it.

Also, I find it intrusive to even ask about people's vaccination status. As the owner, I am not going to do that.
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Old 05-03-2021, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Florida
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What if you have relatives you love, that are senior citizens and you don't want to put them at any risk by exposing yourself? What if you want to take every reasonable precaution to keep your senior family members safe?
Ah, and so where was your concern when NY governor decided to pack Covid positive patients into nursing homes, and then to make matters worse, refuse to distribute the vaccine when it was released????
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Old 05-03-2021, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Cleveland
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So I have to do what unvaccinated say? I'm not allowed to choose to stick around those that are vaccinated? Who is the real totalitarian? Freedom of association means freedom to associate with those one chooses. If someone blocks a section at an event, they can block it for any designation. Trump supporters could have a Trump supporter section, I would not care about them. Freedom for thee and not for me?
This is a non-sequitur relative to our previous exchanges. I've seen enough to know that we're not going to agree on anything on this thread. If you want your neuroses validated, I'm sure Elliott_CCP or a couple of other posters on here could do that for you. Thanks, and have a good day!
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Old 05-03-2021, 11:38 AM
 
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Ah, and so where was your concern when NY governor decided to pack Covid positive patients into nursing homes, and then to make matters worse, refuse to distribute the vaccine when it was released????
I don't live in New York. Their business. I don't live in Florida or Texas either. Their business.
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Old 05-03-2021, 11:39 AM
 
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Sorry if I touched a nerve. Enjoy your ventilator.

The vast majority of people who get covid not only don’t end up in the hospital, they also don’t end up on a ventilator. Aren’t you following the science?
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Old 05-03-2021, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Lots of Fake Vax Cards out there.

You can't sit next to me, You have cooties. I'm Telling. I'm telling.
It's not cooties, It's covid....lol
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Old 05-03-2021, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Why not open black and white drinking fountains again while we're at it?
that is so democrat party...
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Old 05-03-2021, 11:42 AM
 
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as soon as this becomes a thing you will see millions of faked vax cars. It's literally a piece of paper that someone scribbles on and there is no way to verify it. You'd think the liberal overlords would have a better plan by now
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Old 05-03-2021, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Florida
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This type of strategy may look enticing to the extreme safetyists, but when you try to iron out the details, it simply isn't feasible. I'm opposed to it on principle, but due to some vocal and insistent students, we tried to game out what it would look like to have 'vaccinated only ' classes at our fitness business, just as a thought experiment. It's a mess. Not worth it for a small business to even bother re-opening under these conditions. Contrary to the OP's theory, it would not help business. It would hurt it.

Also, I find it intrusive to even ask about people's vaccination status. As the owner, I am not going to do that.
Yeah, you would have to completely redesign the building so there are two entrances/parking spots. Stadiums might be able to get away with this because they could just have the vaccinated go through the VIP sections, but I imagine there are many VIP's who won't get the vaccine either, or will simply pay to carry a card but it's actually worthless.
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