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I should have left out 'anti-vaxxers'. Most people don't seem to know or appreciate the patriotic need for vaccination right now.
Hmm... I see your point about it being the "patriotic" thing to do.
Now, aren't you glad that President Trump pushed Operation Warp Speed to enable these vaccines to be developed in record time? And how do you feel about - less than a year ago - virtually every democratic politician was claiming either 1) it couldn't be done that fast, or 2) the vaccine wouldn't be safe and they wouldn't take it (although now they want all of us to take it)?
In hindsight, aren't you glad that President Trump was right and the democratic politicians were wrong? It has enabled us to do the patriotic thing and save lives!
which is why every single vaccine taken and scheduled is/was "free" to the citizens.
Doesn't change the fact that just Pfizer made $3.5 billion on the vaccine alone in 3 months. Projections are for $26 billion this year. Quite a racket considered we paid for the technology. It will go higher when they push it on the kids that don't even need it.
I've posted several times that the issue most people have with this vaccine is that it hasn't gone through the same processes that previous vaccines and drugs were subjected to.
Included in those posts was the simple logic that if those processes are required to produce a product which is known to be at least relatively safe and effective, then the current vaccines being distributed haven't been proven as such. If those processes aren't required to produce a safe and effective product and these new vaccines are safe, then how many have died or suffered incredibly while waiting for approvals on other drugs or vaccines because of that corruption/"red tape"?
There's only two ways to look at it. Either the vaccine hasn't been proven yet, or the process is corrupt and people have suffered and died as a result. It can't be neither.
I don't know that I'd call the process "corrupt". Convoluted, overly-cautious, something not quite so damning/accusatory.
The bureaucracy lives to be as close to "100% safe" as possible. They also like to treat everybody "equally", that is, as if there's no difference in them.
But say you've got terminal cancer, and there's a promising but unproven treatment ... is it better to get the treatment, knowing death is a 98% likelihood anyway? I say that's the individual's and their doctor's choice (and their pocketbook, frankly).
It's why Fauci sai a vaccine could be 2 years, could be 5 if at all. That's a beautiful answer "We don't know, so let me make sure to include the obligatory doubt."
And this goes beyond drugs. Look at the environment, specifically things like the Waters of America claptrap. There's all kinds of regulations based not on "real science" but in "well, this would be near perfect".
Hmm... I see your point about it being the "patriotic" thing to do.
Now, aren't you glad that President Trump pushed Operation Warp Speed to enable these vaccines to be developed in record time? And how do you feel about - less than a year ago - virtually every democratic politician was claiming either 1) it couldn't be done that fast, or 2) the vaccine wouldn't be safe and they wouldn't take it (although now they want all of us to take it)?
In hindsight, aren't you glad that President Trump was right and the democratic politicians were wrong? It has enabled us to do the patriotic thing and save lives!
I have said many time that OWS was huge for Trump. (but would have happened no matter the Pres)
Much of the orthodox medical thought it unlikely at the time, and we were very pleasantly proved wrong!
The Dems/Libs simply followed the orthodox medical.
But what so many anti-vaxxers don't know or appreciate, is that there is a national reason to get vaccinated even if you are at low risk for Covid 19. And that is to help reduce the size of the active viral pool. The larger and longer that pool exists, the more apt we are to encounter a viral variant that is either more virulent, or can bypass the current vaccines. So it is a patriotic thing to do, when you do what is in the best interest of your country!
In my opinion, the best interest of our country would be to keep the population in check.
Ok, so an insolvent country is printing money from thin air to subsidize multi billion dollar pharma corporations. Got it. All I need to know.
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Doesn't change the fact that just Pfizer made $3.5 billion on the vaccine alone in 3 months. Projections are for $26 billion this year. Quite a racket considered we paid for the technology. It will go higher when they push it on the kids that don't even need it.
They didn't "make" $3.5B, but their revenues were that.
We (USG) paid Pfizer $2B for 100MM doses. We then agreed for another 100MM for another $2B. We haven't received all those doses.
We're paying Moderna $6B for 300MM doses.
We're paying J&J $1B for 100MM doses.
(100+100+300)/2+100 = 350MM people = > 100% of US population
So, for $9B, we treat 330MM - $27.27/person.
All that revenue that Pfizer makes above $4B is from other countries.
We "paid for" - that is, funded the research on Moderna. Not Pfizer. Pfizer essentially said "we will spend the money if you get rid of the BS bureaucracy and let us just deliver an effective vaccine."
I have said many time that OWS was huge for Trump. (but would have happened no matter the Pres)
Much of the orthodox medical thought it unlikely at the time, and we were very pleasantly proved wrong!
The Dems/Libs simply followed the orthodox medical.
there's not any proof that OWS would have happened if a Big Government/bureaucracy-loving Dem had been in charge. In fact, there would be great doubt, based upon statements from Dems AND the longtime FDA/CDC people.
Look how they finally gave EUA's. "Oh, thanks for all that data. OK, we're going to take a month to review it - that's in our little handbook, schedule a meeting 4 weeks out. Then after that meeting, well the head of the FDA has to get a nifty letter typed by his administrator to sign, and that's a 5 day process."
there's not any proof that OWS would have happened if a Big Government/bureaucracy-loving Dem had been in charge. In fact, there would be great doubt, based upon statements from Dems AND the longtime FDA/CDC people.
Look how they finally gave EUA's. "Oh, thanks for all that data. OK, we're going to take a month to review it - that's in our little handbook, schedule a meeting 4 weeks out. Then after that meeting, well the head of the FDA has to get a nifty letter typed by his administrator to sign, and that's a 5 day process."
That's pretty much exactly what was happening.
The Dems are the medical.
"Public health is not commonly understood as a security issue, but it should be. Pandemic disease can destabilize regions, undermine economies, and create fertile territory for social and political unrest...We need to break the cycle in which our own public health system is beholden to emergency appropriations for specific epidemics... lacking the long-term budget certainty we need to shore up our defense for long term, accelerate development of vaccines..... bolster America's public health infrastructure to deal with the new challenges facing our communities and our families, including a new Public Health Rapid Response Fund to better respond to public health emergencies.....Not Donald Trump July 2016.
"That is why as President, I will create a Public Health Rapid Response Fund, with consistent, year-to-year budgets, to better enable the CDC, HHS, FEMA, state and local public health departments, hospital systems, and other federal agencies to quickly and aggressively respond to major public health crises and pandemics. I will also ensure that our government has strong leadership and is organized to better support and work with people on the ground facing public health challenges. Doctors and public health officials......Not Donald Trump August 24, 2016.
"....in addition we need to do more to boost our preparedness for biological threats and bioweapons; to support research for new diagnostic tests, therapeutic treatments, and vaccines for emerging diseases; to build capacity in public health departments; to train the next cadre of public health professionals and ensure that public health and environmental health practices are standard to the educations of medical students; and to provide resources for states and local governments to plan for complex, multi-faceted public health threats, like the impacts of climate change and pandemics and build more resilient communities."....Not Donald Trump October 2016
They didn't "make" $3.5B, but their revenues were that.
We (USG) paid Pfizer $2B for 100MM doses. We then agreed for another 100MM for another $2B. We haven't received all those doses.
We're paying Moderna $6B for 300MM doses.
We're paying J&J $1B for 100MM doses.
(100+100+300)/2+100 = 350MM people = > 100% of US population
So, for $9B, we treat 330MM - $27.27/person.
All that revenue that Pfizer makes above $4B is from other countries.
We "paid for" - that is, funded the research on Moderna. Not Pfizer. Pfizer essentially said "we will spend the money if you get rid of the BS bureaucracy and let us just deliver an effective vaccine."
We just subsidized a vaccine that is also going to be sold worldwide for profit. Again, quite a racket. The yearly boosters they are planning won't be free.
1/4 of their entire revenue currently is from the vaccine. Considering the Pfizer drug lineup that is pretty amazing. You can spin it anyway you want but this is a money maker beyond their wildest dreams. All over a virus with a 99% survival rate. People can shoot themselves up with a EUA vax, shoot their kiddos up, no one can stop it. They will be doing their part to buy that Pharma exec a 4th house or a bigger yacht.
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