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Old 05-05-2021, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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You just gave a great example of how pathetic your reasoning is.

Your link said "welfare" includes "Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, Social Security."

Medicare and Social Security are benefits for people who have retired. Retired people aren't receiving those benefits when they could be working in a factory.

As for the other two, more than 1/3 of US manufacturing workers receive some sort of public assistance!. So there are a whole lot of people in the US actually, physically working in factories who receive Medicaid and Food Stamps anyway! That should give you an idea of how attractive factory work is.

Not.
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Old 05-05-2021, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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The absurdity is that my local pub is having to close two days a week. Not because of lack of business, but lack of workers. The owner was showing me texts from other local restaurant owners closing 2-3 days a week, and as of today, two restaurants closing indefinitely because they cannot find employees.

The sushi restaurant a few blocks away has lost 70% of its staff due to government benefits. One of the best beach restaurants in the Emerald Coast no longer opens for lunch, because they cannot find employees.

When you don't have to pay rent and can collect federal funds for sitting on your ass, why bother?

Oh, but the day of reckoning is coming.....
My favorite bar closed last summer, possibly permanently. No more choice of 36 beers on tap. But I've stayed out of bars since last summer, so it didn't matter much. Covid cases skyrocketed last summer shortly after bars and restaurants were allowed to reopen.

My favorite Mexican restaurant has help wanted signs out, but did before the pandemic. If restaurant workers still have to wear masks, as they do here, I'm not surprised some don't want to go back. Perhaps some have found better jobs by now. The state unemployment rate here is 4.2% as of March, so a lot of people are back at work.
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Old 05-05-2021, 01:27 PM
 
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For those who think all those immigrants are going to take jobs away from American citizens, think again.

American factories are desperate for workers. It's a $1 trillion problem
That's what happens when the government sends out several month's worth of pay to a guy that makes $11/hour. They tend to not show up for work. Blame this one on Joe Biden.
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Old 05-05-2021, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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That's what happens when the government sends out several month's worth of pay to a guy that makes $11/hour. They tend to not show up for work. Blame this one on Joe Biden.
For, I believe, the 7th time. Or at least the 6th:
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As the article noted, this is not a new problem.

I've been reading about this problem for almost 20 years.
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Actually, the problem predated the pandemic… if you bothered to read the article…
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Old 05-05-2021, 01:35 PM
 
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Not only that. They want well trained and highly skilled professionals in every field. Naturally such people are hard to find. Most are already employed or self employed. I remember in the past companies like IBM investing a lot in new recruits. They had extensive training programs. Today companies expect candidates to be experienced and knowledgeable. There is zero willingness to invest in order to bring the new recruits to the level they require.
Then, an effective manager with an MBA comes and tells workers, "The government is shutting down our factory, everyone is fired! Come back in 2021."

In 2021, the effective manager complains, "We can't find workers."
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Old 05-05-2021, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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You just gave a great example of how pathetic your reasoning is.

Your link said "welfare" includes "Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, Social Security."

Medicare and Social Security are benefits for people who have retired. Retired people aren't receiving those benefits when they could be working in a factory.

As for the other two, more than 1/3 of US manufacturing workers receive some sort of public assistance!. So there are a whole lot of people in the US actually, physically working in factories who receive Medicaid and Food Stamps anyway! That should give you an idea of how attractive factory work is.

Not.
Medicaid, food stamps, and Biden's extended unemployment benefits are not retirement benefits.

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That manufacturing employees make about the same as retail workers on average is surprising to many. But as companies have been off-shoring more and more of these jobs to Mexico, China and other low-wage countries, fewer manufacturing jobs are unionized, and even the unions have negotiated lower wages in many cases in exchange for keeping jobs in the U.S.
The Globalist policies of offshore cheap labor are part of what is killing wages in the US.

The bottom line is that more than half of Americans are receiving more federal benefits than are paying in. And the Democrat policy is to continue that expansion. When that benefit reaches the point where it competes with wages that are artificially driven down by policies, people will no longer want to work. And that is exactly what we are seeing today.

If the benefits dry up, people will go back to work.
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Old 05-06-2021, 02:33 PM
 
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Anecdotal evidence I ordered a couch from (nice store name here). The last time I spent a lot of money there the salesperson was able to find me a discount code. This time I was told they were too far behind and suspended doing that. 5 months out for a couch.
Is it Crate & Barrell?
It doesn't have any coupons. In fact, hardly any furniture store has coupons now.
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Old 05-06-2021, 02:38 PM
 
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You just gave a great example of how pathetic your reasoning is.

Your link said "welfare" includes "Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, Social Security."

Medicare and Social Security are benefits for people who have retired. Retired people aren't receiving those benefits when they could be working in a factory.

As for the other two, more than 1/3 of US manufacturing workers receive some sort of public assistance!. So there are a whole lot of people in the US actually, physically working in factories who receive Medicaid and Food Stamps anyway! That should give you an idea of how attractive factory work is.

Not.
I always take the position that it is absolutely wrong that someone could be gainfully employed yet still require welfare. If you are employed and still need welfare to live, it's the business that benefits, not the worker. The government is essentially subsidizing businesses that pay poverty wages, by paying the remainder of the salary a worker should receive.

Instead, the government should tax companies that pay less than say, $15 an hour, to discourage companies from taking advantage of government welfare.
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Old 05-06-2021, 02:46 PM
 
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I always take the position that it is absolutely wrong that someone could be gainfully employed yet still require welfare. If you are employed and still need welfare to live, it's the business that benefits, not the worker. The government is essentially subsidizing businesses that pay poverty wages, by paying the remainder of the salary a worker should receive.

Instead, the government should tax companies that pay less than say, $15 an hour, to discourage companies from taking advantage of government welfare.
The country didn't cease to exist, nor stop functioning before welfare existed.
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Old 05-06-2021, 03:07 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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Is it Crate & Barrell?
It doesn't have any coupons. In fact, hardly any furniture store has coupons now.
Close, West Elm. Basically saying were going to charge you guys more so you stop ordering so much stuff.
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