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Old 05-06-2021, 03:03 PM
 
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VAERS is when someone has a sudden adverse reaction shortly after being vaccinated.

However, no one is investigating them to connect them to the vaccine or not. If no one "finds" a connection (usually because of lack of looking), doesn't mean one doesn't exist.

A few points:

VAERS cases have exploded since we began vaccinating for Covid19. Many times higher than any point in history. You may say that's due to mass vaccinations however over 100 million Americans get vaccinated for the flu annually.

Something is up, and it's not being investigated.

With Covid19, if some obese elderly person gets sick, dies of a stroke, they will be counted on the Worldometer Covid19 deaths. If a healthy 20-something year old gets a headache within hours of getting the vaccine, goes to sleep and dies of a stroke, he is recorded in VAERS, and his death is not investigated and we're told "people die suddenly all the time"

BULLSH*T,. THINK FOR YOURSELF
No. VAERS is when someone REPORTS that they had an adverse reaction after being vaccinated. The bogus reports are not removed.

Someone posted something to Facebook about an adverse reaction she had. There were photos of her in the ICU and she was on an IV for something having to do with her liver.

.... only she was wearing jeans and a t-shirt, the IV was actually an empty tube laying on the floor, and nothing was plugged into the outlets near the bed.

People will literally believe anything, and some people are so worked up over a vaccination being available that they will make up complete fabrications to try to scare people into not getting it. So not only are there the regular problems of folks reporting things like "I had a stomachache two weeks after getting my shot" and "my dad tripped and broke his ankle the same day he got his vaccine," but we also now have the issue of people completely making up bogus stories that scare people and cause terror that will likely lead to some of these folks ending up with a severe case of covid, which actually DOES have widespread negative effects that last far longer than the 24-hour bout of aches and pains that most people get after their vaccination.

(Ironically, these people who are terrified of the vaccine are generally the same ones who crow about others "living in fear" because they wear a mask in the grocery store, but I digress.)
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Old 05-06-2021, 03:05 PM
 
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No. VAERS is when someone REPORTS that they had an adverse reaction after being vaccinated. The bogus reports are not removed.
What % are bogus reports?
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Old 05-06-2021, 03:13 PM
Status: "Let this year be over..." (set 22 days ago)
 
Location: Where my bills arrive
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So a Cardiologist says this is bad for us and all wrong, he's not a Virologist or any specialty that would deal with Covid type illnesses in their daily routine, but he's "the most cited medical doctor on COVID-19 treatments", thats right up there with a political leader giving health information on a virus...

How about "US cardiologist makes false claims about Covid-19 vaccination" or "Cardiologist accuses medical industry of ‘therapeutic nihilism’ on Fox News as host pushes COVID-19 conspiracy"
Ref: https://factcheck.afp.com/us-cardiol...19-vaccination
Ref: https://www.cardiovascularbusiness.c...-19-conspiracy

Bet these folks take recommendations for Cardiac Care from the cleaning lady...

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Old 05-06-2021, 03:14 PM
DKM
 
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There are 500 million people with a vaccine now. We found when certain vaccines caused blood clots, a few people died. Everyone across many countries knew about it and some vaccines were stopped. You really believe that beyond that is a much larger hidden wave of death and illness? Global conspiracy involving thousands of hospitals across the world all hiding the danger of vaccines and entire countries are faking data that shows the vaccine has stopped the pandemic?

How do people like this even know how to turn on a computer?
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Old 05-06-2021, 05:11 PM
 
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There was a major spike in death by Coincidence. Who knew coincidence killed so many?
Were showing 4000 deaths and the EU is showing 8000 deaths, but they have vaccinated maybe half as many.
Both systems are passive. So if our system was as good, we would be showing 16,000 deaths
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...s-tracker.html
https://vaccineimpact.com/2021/cdc-4...es-since-2001/
https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/84...d-19-vaccines/
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Old 05-06-2021, 05:18 PM
 
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There are 500 million people with a vaccine now. We found when certain vaccines caused blood clots, a few people died. Everyone across many countries knew about it and some vaccines were stopped. You really believe that beyond that is a much larger hidden wave of death and illness? Global conspiracy involving thousands of hospitals across the world all hiding the danger of vaccines and entire countries are faking data that shows the vaccine has stopped the pandemic?

How do people like this even know how to turn on a computer?
Please predict what will happened to those who are vaccinated over the next year.

You know, since the is no data that has tracked ANYONE who has taken a vaccine for over a year.
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Old 05-06-2021, 06:08 PM
 
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Please predict what will happened to those who are vaccinated over the next year.

You know, since the is no data that has tracked ANYONE who has taken a vaccine for over a year.
Actually, the first human trials were a year ago. I haven't heard any reports of heads flying off, people growing third arms, anyone melting into a pile of goo, or any other mysterious "side effects" other than a sore arm, a swollen lymph node, a headache, a 24-hour fever, etc.
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Old 05-06-2021, 06:14 PM
 
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Actually, the first human trials were a year ago. I haven't heard any reports of heads flying off, people growing third arms, anyone melting into a pile of goo, or any other mysterious "side effects" other than a sore arm, a swollen lymph node, a headache, a 24-hour fever, etc.
How about 2 years from now? 3 years? You realize that the multiple vaccines have different ingredients and work in different ways. Lumping them altogether gives a false equivalency.

But there is a drug Pfizer just put into trials last month ... it'll be available by years end... WHAT could go wrong???

Nope. Not even close.

I wonder if people will just readily get experimented on next year. No trials necessary. Just take this.
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Old 05-06-2021, 06:15 PM
 
Location: NY
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Were showing 4000 deaths and the EU is showing 8000 deaths, but they have vaccinated maybe half as many.
Both systems are passive. So if our system was as good, we would be showing 16,000 deaths
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...s-tracker.html
https://vaccineimpact.com/2021/cdc-4...es-since-2001/
https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/84...d-19-vaccines/
Sadly, no matter how high that number goes, the rationale will always be 'the benefit outweighed the risk.' I don't believe for a second they are investigating thousands of deaths and serious reactions.
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Old 05-06-2021, 06:17 PM
 
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Sadly, no matter how high that number goes, the rationale will always be 'the benefit outweighed the risk.' I don't believe for a second they are investigating thousands of deaths.
Only to see if they can blame it on COVID.
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