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Old 05-06-2021, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Spring Hill, FL
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Why should we do that? It's not a part of America's history it's Mexico's history. Why would Americans sing the Mexican National Anthem? Explain that while your attempt to demonize is thinly veiled!
Some American's are still Mexican, dual citizenship and what not. Also, American and Mexican history is somewhat intertwined, what with large parts of the country still being Mexico less than 200 years ago.

I assume you are similarly outraged at the Irish bands marching through Boston or Chicago?
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Old 05-06-2021, 09:23 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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Which ironically bankrupted France and resulted in their own revolution. Throwing off monarchies is contagious.

It's also why we were empathetic and supported Mexico in their war with France that Cinco De Mayo references. Fighting off European colonialism in the Americas as we cut that cord for good.
All good points...
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Old 05-06-2021, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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We should make "Cinco de Mayo" a National Holiday complete with Federal pay, Work & School off and everybody will need to learn how to sing the Mexican National Anthem.
I'm sure a bunch of heads here on C-D will explode.
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Why should we do that? It's not a part of America's history it's Mexico's history. Why would Americans sing the Mexican National Anthem? Explain that while your attempt to demonize is thinly veiled!
like shooting fish in a barrel.
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Old 05-06-2021, 09:38 AM
 
Location: 53179
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Tacos and alcohol for non Mexicans. So why not celebrate.
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Old 05-06-2021, 09:39 AM
 
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Excerpt: Why do we celebrate Cinco de Mayo?

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I do not celebrate Cinco de Mayo but am Happy for those who do and
hope they are just as happy for me when I am celebrating Columbus Day.
No opinion, just curious. How do you celebrate Columbus day?
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Old 05-06-2021, 09:39 AM
 
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Why should we do that? It's not a part of America's history it's Mexico's history. Why would Americans sing the Mexican National Anthem? Explain that while your attempt to demonize is thinly veiled!
The internet is your friend and don't be ashamed or FEAR to open Mainstream Media links. Texas was once part of Mexico also thru California. Texas then became for a short time its own Nation. It joined the US and its citizens had Cinco De Mayo. It is NOT making us Mexican. Just part of any ethnic heritage. This one happens to have been enough to have aspects of it recognize that has NOTHING to do with a National Anthem.

Title: Cinco de Mayo is a Mexican holiday. So why does the United States celebrate it more?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...cid=uxbndlbing

From the link from USA TODAY.

- Contrary to popular belief, Cinco de Mayo doesn’t commemorate Mexico’s Independence Day.
- May 5 marks the Mexican army’s victory over France at the Battle of Puebla during the Franco-Mexican War in 1862. Mexico’s Independence Day is celebrated on September 16.
- Celebrating Cinco de Mayo was not always like this, and in fact was something Mexican Americans celebrated in the mid-1800s as an act of resistance.

"They began to celebrate that holiday because they also wanted to commemorate their acts of resistance during the U.S.-Mexico war, but also holding their own after incorporation," Gradilla said.
- "After Mexican Americans who decided to stay after 1848 and become U.S. citizens, they realized that all the promises the U.S. had made to them were not going to come true. They were not going to be treated as equals.
- "The fact that you had Mexican communities in the southwest celebrating Cinco de Mayo was very powerful and very symbolic because what that war was about was David vs. Goliath," he said.
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Old 05-06-2021, 09:39 AM
 
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Gives us an opportunity to eat Hispanic and drink margaritas. Not that I personally need much encouragement.
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Old 05-06-2021, 10:43 AM
 
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The internet is your friend and don't be ashamed or FEAR to open Mainstream Media links. Texas was once part of Mexico also thru California. Texas then became for a short time its own Nation. It joined the US and its citizens had Cinco De Mayo. It is NOT making us Mexican. Just part of any ethnic heritage. This one happens to have been enough to have aspects of it recognize that has NOTHING to do with a National Anthem.

Title: Cinco de Mayo is a Mexican holiday. So why does the United States celebrate it more?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...cid=uxbndlbing

From the link from USA TODAY.

- Contrary to popular belief, Cinco de Mayo doesn’t commemorate Mexico’s Independence Day.
- May 5 marks the Mexican army’s victory over France at the Battle of Puebla during the Franco-Mexican War in 1862. Mexico’s Independence Day is celebrated on September 16.
- Celebrating Cinco de Mayo was not always like this, and in fact was something Mexican Americans celebrated in the mid-1800s as an act of resistance.

"They began to celebrate that holiday because they also wanted to commemorate their acts of resistance during the U.S.-Mexico war, but also holding their own after incorporation," Gradilla said.
- "After Mexican Americans who decided to stay after 1848 and become U.S. citizens, they realized that all the promises the U.S. had made to them were not going to come true. They were not going to be treated as equals.
- "The fact that you had Mexican communities in the southwest celebrating Cinco de Mayo was very powerful and very symbolic because what that war was about was David vs. Goliath," he said.
The Battle of Puebla was held in the city of Puebla, Mexico which is what Cinco de Mayo is about it was not held in Texas as Puebla s located in East-Central Mexico. It is bordered by the states of Veracruz to the north and east, Hidalgo, México, Tlaxcala and Morelos to the west, and Guerrero and Oaxaca to the south. At any rate that battle had nothing to do with U.S. history it's Mexico's history.

I never said that it made us Mexicans. As for the Mexican national anthem it was another poster who brought it up mocking if we would object to singing it and why should we? I don't see other Americans whose ancestor had roots in another country celebrating any wars that they won. We already have days and even months celebrating different ethnic groups in the U.S. now we should be celebrating wars that their ancestors won? Eat your tacos and drink your tequila on that day and other days if you choose I just object to the reason behind Cinco de Mayo.
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Old 05-06-2021, 11:03 AM
 
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It really is weird that our country celebrates this day. Do you think people in our country know tomorrow is Seis de Mayo? Do you think Americas show their ignorance for celebrating this day?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...co/4943671001/

From USA Today:
May 5 marks the Mexican army’s victory over France at the Battle of Puebla during the Franco-Mexican War in 1862. Mexico’s Independence Day is celebrated on September 16.

A 2018 survey by NationalToday.com showed only 10% of Americans knew the true reason behind the holiday, yet it has turned into a day where people can get cheap margaritas and wear sombreros.

“Most people drinking in the bars have no idea that it's celebrating the strength in the power and the resilience of Mexican people to overcome invaders who are trying to take their land,” said Alexandro Gradilla, associate professor of Chicana and Chicano Studies at California State University, Fullerton.
"We" don't.
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Old 05-06-2021, 11:19 AM
 
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Some American's are still Mexican, dual citizenship and what not. Also, American and Mexican history is somewhat intertwined, what with large parts of the country still being Mexico less than 200 years ago.

I assume you are similarly outraged at the Irish bands marching through Boston or Chicago?
Where did I use the melodramatic over the top word of "outrage"? I said object and that's not outrage!

Do we celebrate the Irish winning a war in Ireland? You're analogies fall flat.
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