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That is simply not true. Taking this inoculation is not the only way, or even the best way, to build immunity.
A large percent of the population was apparently naturally immune before any of this started, probably from prior exposure to similar versions of the coronavirus that came and went in the years and decades that have already gone by.
People are also developing immunity currently the old fashioned way - just by getting the virus and then recovering from it. This virus is extremely virulent, although not really very dangerous for most people. It has almost certainly spread farther and made contact with a lot more people than is currently known.
So we are not dependent on this "vaccine" to build herd immunity, any more than we have been during the countless other confrontations between humans and various diseases that have occurred over the millennia.
Getting immunity "the old fashioned way" is what is happening in India right now.
States with similar vaccination rates aren’t surging. No state has even half their population vaccinated yet. People saying that cases are plummeting due to the vaccine are likely incorrect.
Maybe not cases, but hospitalizations and deaths. Cases are rising since we still have so many not vaccinated. And as many of the high risks have been vaccinated, the lower risks are the bulk of those new cases. So cases might be up, but deaths not. And we may complete the Pandemic in this manner despite many not getting vaccinated.
I am fine with them gambling the lives of themselves and their families BUT they are Endangering themselves and others. Not vaccinating them could endanger the entire society, including those who have been vaccinated.
Which demonstrates that the vaccinations tear down people's immunities rather they building them up.
Therefore since they don't build up the immunity, they aren't really helpful and they aren't really vaccinations!
Well if they aren't really vaccinations, then what are they???
Wow, the so called conspiracy theorists have been right, from the very beginning!
Maybe not cases, but hospitalizations and deaths. Cases are rising since we still have so many not vaccinated. And as many of the high risks have been vaccinated, the lower risks are the bulk of those new cases. So cases might be up, but deaths not. And we may complete the Pandemic in this manner despite many not getting vaccinated.
Hospitalizations and deaths were going to slow regardless. An understanding of history, viruses and past pandemics tells a lot. We were never really in the dark as to how things would play out even without a vaccine. We are seeing waves which will once again peak and fall and each time, the death rates will get lower and lower.
Doctors in Maine reports high ICU load from unvaccinated middle-aged patients. There was a similar report from Alaska not long ago.
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“The good news is that we are seeing vaccinations work in the older populations that have been vaccinated – they’re not in the hospital or becoming critically ill,” Boomsma said. “But there does seem to be a higher percentage of younger age groups that are getting very sick, and that could be because the new variants are more virulent.”
India has been doing that for centuries for all types of reasons that cause people to die.
Their case level right now is less than the USA's at it's highest peak, per capita.
They do not usually have so many dead people that their mortuary services cannot keep up and have to burn bodies in the street.
Right now they are contributing to almost half the world total of daily cases.
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Which demonstrates that the vaccinations tear down people's immunities rather they building them up.
Therefore since they don't build up the immunity, they aren't really helpful and they aren't really vaccinations!
Well if they aren't really vaccinations, then what are they???
Vaccines do not "tear down people's immunities".
The vaccines have been convincingly shown to be highly effective in preventing infection. They are not 100% effective, so, yes, some vaccinated people are getting infected. Most are not.
Doctors in Maine reports high ICU load from unvaccinated middle-aged patients. There was a similar report from Alaska not long ago.
From your link:
"None of those in the ICUs of the 25 member hospitals of the three networks had been fully vaccinated, and senior doctors from the three networks were unaware of any having been admitted to their hospitals at all, though a handful of partially vaccinated people had.
'A lot of people are getting their first dose of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine and then are not coming back for the second one,' Teng said. 'I can tell you with certainty that one dose of either will not be nearly as protective against severe illness as for those who complete their vaccinations.'”
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