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Yes I would also be interested to understand the child's home environment, parenting, and how she obtained the weapon.
However, my town experienced a tragic suicide of a girl of similar age a year or so ago. From what I can tell and hear (small town), the parents and home were pretty normal. They were good parents. However, this girl was bullied in school and everyone let her down.
We have to understand that parents are not the only figures in a child's life that mold and influence. Schools, teachers, town are all influencing factors. A child growing up in a bad neighborhood (as I did early on) is has the potential to get thrown off track no matter how good the parenting is at home.
My feelings is we don't empower bullied children to come forward and support is lacking. If bullying is a primary factor in this girls actions, its not just the parents...
For a child to get to the point of suicide -- there is more than just bullying at school.
There is the child's character or mental health.
Depression is not easily diagnosed in anybody. It is not easily treated with meds, therapy, love and attention.
I have known of people who commited suicide that had all the infrastructure you would think of to have the support they needed....and they persisted and finally succeeded. They weren't bullied, they weren't under attack but they FELT that way. It was their way of looking at their lives.
So not all kids who commit suicide are unusually bullied. BUT those kids may be predisposed to mental health issues and so for them what one of us may dismiss -- they may internalize. And how do parents see that -- sometimes even 'experts' can't.
Keeping the guns locked up in a safe renders them useless during a break in. It leaves people unable to defend themselves.
No **** ? An no one is saying they have to be locked in the safe 24/7, they should be though, if ones child is left running around the house. Or use one of the night stand biometric safes.
Firearms ownership entails a lot of responsibility, firearms ownership with children around requires even more.
Keeping the guns locked up in a safe renders them useless during a break in. It leaves people unable to defend themselves.
So you are saying that if you choose to own a gun to protect yourself from someone maybe coming into your home, you can't secure it and keep it away from children.
That's important.
For years gun owners have proudly boasted that they can keep their guns secure from kids and still be used for protection.
For years gun owners have proudly boasted that they can keep their guns secure from kids and still be used for protection.
And those gun owners would be correct. Just because this one random internet person can't seem to figure out a way to safely secure a firearm but yet still have it reasonably accessible in a time of need obviously doesn't talk to the larger population.
And those gun owners would be correct. Just because this one random internet person can't seem to figure out a way to safely secure a firearm but yet still have it reasonably accessible in a time of need obviously doesn't talk to the larger population.
The person I cited in my post seemed to suggest that it can't be done.
I am just learning as I go.
I suspected that many of you folks would see things differently.
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What was a sixth grader doing in middle school? Where I come from, middle school (used to be called jr high) is 7th and 8th grade.
And today 6th - 8th are part of middle school especially when you get away from the North East areas, I also attended Junior High for 7th/8th but that was another century...
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