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Not so much, certainly not so much to same level as the USA. There's some of this in the UK, but really not in the Europe continent much, not even in Paris or Stockholm despite some claims about it. A lot of our family have moved to Europe and I had contracts there before semi-retired so travel to a lot of cities, and the high-crime areas, even no go zones is true in Britain especially-- much of Bradford, regions like Tower Hamlets and other parts of London, Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool do have some regions with a lot of crime and gangs that police sort of given up on. And even without same access to guns as United States there's a lot of violent crime there England, part of it native born, a lot of from Britain's rising immigrant population from its old commonwealth nations who are rising majority in many of those cities and regions. (England's most common male baby name is "Mohammed" and London's mayor recall is Pakistani, although seems well liked there). The UK, remember is the country that had that horrible nightmare with the mass rapes of preteen girls in Rotherham, Oxford, Derby and dozen of other cities-- literally hundreds of thousands and possibly up to a million little girls in England who were captured and sexually assaulted, beaten, some even murdered by what they call grooming gangs over there. The Brit cops later learned many of those gangs were centered in some of those areas that police were afraid to go to, what I guess you would call no go zones, which is part of why they could prey on British young girls for so many years and not get caught. The victims were in all English social classes, a lot working class but lots middle class or even upper class and very wealthy esp in Oxford, some in city but lots in the countryside-- and if you think about how that level of horrible crimes could go so widespread and hit society for so long without getting halted, the criminal gangs must have had bases the size of large neighborhoods or even small cities. We have a lot of family and friends in England it's a permanent stain on the nation and one that everyone there tells us, will permanently haunt the United Kingdom. And even outside of that there's a lot of horrible knife and gun crime in those British cities, so I'd say England has a lot of same thing.
Outside of Britain though, not so much. Paris sometimes get that rep for the suburbs outside Paris (they call them banlieu or something like it, can't remember the term), but it's really not that bad. We were in Paris many times and went to those suburbs that are supposedly more of a problem for police, and we were safer there even late at night than most places in ex. Chicago, New Orleans, Detroit or St. Louis which have crime levels like many 3rd world countries, or much of New York or Los Angeles, leave alone some of the especially horrible US medium sized cities like Newark, Gary Indiana or Camden that are so filled with crime they're basically big no go zones for police. The only bad part of around Paris is St. Denis which has had problems but even it isn't on the level of places like Chicago, St. Louis or Los Angeles leave alone Newark or Camden, or even at level of British cities and neighborhoods with high crime like Manchester, Tower Hamlets or Bradford. Part of this is, French are much more protective of their culture or identity than ex. the USA, England or Canada, and they mass deport immigrants or even children of immigrants for even minor crimes at the highest rate in the Western world by far. The French are openly anti-Muslim and Islamophobic like we in the United States wouldn't believe-- they don't care about political correctness there, we coulnd't even wrap our minds around it the way our media is-- and openly hostile to their African population, so there's a huge deportation level and more and more of the rest are leaving. (A lot actually come to Canada or Australia or here to the USA, when I was in Dearborn a couple years ago there was a big Arab population that spoke French because whole communities left France). And while it may sound harsh to us in the US, it's helped to reduce their crime level and keep their cities safe. Any Muslim in France who even hints at supporting terrorism gets kicked out with his or her whole family, contrast this with Britain (also a lot of terrorist attacks ex. Manchester bombing) or the USA (that Syrian shooter in Boulder or the Saudi shooter in Pensacola, just in past couple years), and France has much more power to kick out immigrants and whole families it doesn't like.
Same with other countries. Sweden is very low crime and safe, and there aren't high crime areas or no go zones there. Even Malmo which gets a bad rep sometimes, is very safe-- the claim of Stockholm or Malmo as "rape capital of northern Europe" was never true, that's just some quirk of the way Swedish authorities changed the definition of it. (A lot of crimes in the US classified as abuse but not rape, get marked as rape in Swede stats). Even most of the Iraqis and Syrians in Sweden (and Germany) are Christian, and while Sweden's government isn't as tough as France is, they're a lot more conservative than we often think and deport their criminals and esp Muslims at a very high rate. Same with countries like Netherlands, Italy and Belgium. They're not perfect but very safe, crime is low and they don't have no go zones. Only other case I can think of is maybe Molenbeek for Belgium, one of our cousins moved outside of there and it can be a mess at times. But it's been cleaned up a lot in the past decade and now is not at all a bad place, certainly not near as bad it used to be. The Belgians like the French are big on deporting their troublemakers and they have no tolerance for the PC nonsense that's so common in the UK, Canada and the USA. The media environment, total different there.
This is mainly rubbish - well certainly the parts pertaining to the UK anyway! You think there is a 'lot' of horrible gun crime? Really? There are around 70 people A YEAR that die by a gun, and thats murder, suicide and by accident! I believe it takes just the city of Chicago less than a month for the same number no?
Yeah that's certainly true of Britain, the stabbings in London and cities like Manchester and Liverpool are horrible and they have a high violent crime rate there. And even with hard gun control, England, Australia, Canada and New Zealand all still have a lot more gun violence than you'd expect. The UK has knife control laws of all dumb things, they joke you need a license there (a "loicence" they call it) to carry a butter knife out, and doesn't seem doing anything to stop all the knife crime. It's not that bad in rest of Europe and there's not much problem with stabbings or other violent crimes. And it's easy to forget in the USA, but most European countries outside of the UK actually do have a right to bear arms in their own ways, and allow gun ownership for private citizens. Switzerland has highest gun ownership in Western world, Czech Republic and a lot of eastern Europe have friendly gun laws. Scandinavia, even though we think they're liberal the Nordic countries actually have high gun ownership and gun rights. Even in countries like Germany and France, you can own guns if you're upstanding citizen and not stupid, and each time we've been in Europe for a period, we've met and talked to local gun owners, and there are a whole lot of gun clubs on the Europe continent to make sure people learn and use their guns safely.
It's really Britain that clamped down hard and doesn't allow guns, due to some school shooting years ago. Same with Australia. But it hasn't stopped their violent crimes, even gun crimes, any more than "knife control" has. "If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns". A lot of truth to that. For us here in the USA, especially in areas with high crime (and like we've been saying some cities like New Orleans or St. Louis have violent crime levels on level with developing countries), I know we feel a lot safer when we're out in a potential dangerous area, and have our Glocks or Sig Sauers with us. What a lot of the gun control crowd forgets is for people like us seniors especially, we know we're vulnerable and if some criminal tried to attack us and rob us, or be burglars in a home invasion, they'd have a strength advantage over us. For responsible and well trained gun owners like us, the firearms are an equalizer and without it, we'd be the victims. It's to the point that when we do vacation, at least before COVID19 when it was easier to go out, we prefer open carry states if we can. Just having our Glocks around means any would be mugger or criminal thinks twice. The guns aren't the problem, it's the people using the guns who are causing the problems.
This is rubbish! Well the bit regarding the UK is anyway! Knife crime rates in the UK are very similar to the US and yet gun crime in the US is 400 times as much as in the UK - it doesn't take a genius to work out why!.
There are NO 'no go' areas in the UK - if ever you are in London and you 'accidentally fall asleep on the tube don't worry because there are NO 'no go' areas, you may end up in the a*se end of nowhere and there may not be much to 'look at' at the end of the lines but you will be safe.
I've been on the underground all over London late evenings, on a night bus you might come across some very shall we say 'interesting characters' from time to time (usually drunks after a night out) but you are EXTREMELY UNLIKELY to have any problems.
Oh and you don't need a licence for a butter knife!!!
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Are there areas one would call ghettos, yes, but they are in no way like US ghettos.
I don't know whether it's funny or sad, seeing some of the gymnastics here trying to make Europe sound like it's on the brink of disaster.
It's almost as if some here WANT it to be true, in some perverse way to make them feel better about the US and it's massive violence and gun crime issues.
The statistics show Europe is much less violent. My question is how much violence is there in US urban ghettos compared to similar areas in Europe? How much of the difference in violence between the US and Europe is explained by the difference in violence in urban ghettos?
The statistics show Europe is much less violent. My question is how much violence is there in US urban ghettos compared to similar areas in Europe? How much of the difference in violence between the US and Europe is explained by the difference in violence in urban ghettos?
You aren’t going to like this, but know what the biggest difference is? Access to guns.
Wrong.
Switzerland has easy access to guns, and very low crime rates. I'm not a gun fan at all, but to blame safety/crime issues on guns is objectively not correct.
What makes the difference is the population.
In France for example, areas that have a lot Maghrebis (North Africans) and Sub-Saharan Africans are almost always less safe than the other neighborhoods. French prisons are also overwhelmingly filled with people of African descent.
Wrong.
Switzerland has easy access to guns, and very low crime rates. I'm not a gun fan at all, but to blame safety/crime issues on guns is objectively not correct.
What makes the difference is the population.
In France for example, areas that have a lot Maghrebis (North Africans) and Sub-Saharan Africans are almost always less safe than the other neighborhoods. French prisons are also overwhelmingly filled with people of African descent.
You don't need a gun to commit a crime thats true, however countries with low gun ownership or strict gun laws don't have anything like as many people shot to death every year as a country where you can buy a rifle from your local supermarket!!
It doesn't take much of a genius to understand why that is!
This is mainly rubbish - well certainly the parts pertaining to the UK anyway!
The part about France is rubbish, too.
The poster claims that the only dangerous suburb of Paris is Saint-Denis (a city of 110,000 inhabitants)... while most of the Seine-Saint-Denis department (an administrative area that includes Saint-Denis and is home to 1.6 million people) is unsafe. La Courneuve, Clichy, Aubervilliers, Sevran, Stains, just off the top of my head, these are not nice and not safe. Seriously.
Then, you have tons of cities or town all over the Paris metropolitan area that are ok but have a neighborhood or 2 that are bad.
Mantes la Jolie is an example. The thing is, in Mantes' case, the ghetto neighborhood (Le Val Fourre) is home to about half of the municipal population, which is a lot.
Well, they have down trodden areas, maybe can called "ghetto", but overall, the violent crime rate is much, much less, and not really comparable to many of the ghetto places in the US, where violent crime, gun crime, is a daily occurrence.
You are right, I don't like it. Because the left blames access to guns for violence rather than faulty human.
If a person is too dangerous to access guns, they are too dangerous to walk freely amongst the rest of us.
It doesn't take a genius to realise that if a country is riddled with guns and the gun laws are lax then the amount of people getting shot to death every year is going to be sky high!!
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