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Old 05-09-2021, 01:58 PM
 
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FYI- To some of our clearly more affluent posters, the theft of cars from poorer people is a big loss to them, potentially life altering. They often lack comprehensive insurance, may not be able to keep their job and thus end up in desperate positions due to the theft.

This is not an inconvenience like it may be to some of you.

It's a potential step into a spiral of homelessness.
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Old 05-09-2021, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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FYI- To some of our clearly more affluent posters, the theft of cars from poorer people is a big loss to them, potentially life altering. They often lack comprehensive insurance, may not be able to keep their job and thus end up in desperate positions due to the theft.

This is not an inconvenience like it may be to some of you.

It's a potential step into a spiral of homelessness.
A car is the equivalent of owning a horse back in the day. Stealing a horse was a hanging offense.
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Old 05-09-2021, 02:14 PM
 
Location: East of the Burgh.
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"Don't let fear-mongering on California's zero bail fool you"

"Police and prosecutors conveniently fail to mention that the order allows them to detain suspects, just as before, if they can convince a judge that releasing the person would pose an unacceptable risk to public safety."

"Defendants can still be held without bail on a judge’s order. Cops and prosecutors just have to get the defendant to court and then make a persuasive case against release. Despite the assertions of some district attorneys that they would have to wait weeks for a regular bail hearing, a judge is available in every California county, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, to sign warrants, issue emergency orders and prevent the release of dangerous suspects." -- Los Angeles Times

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So sounds like the Glendora PD is too lazy or unwilling to go to a judge, so they issue a ticket and post on Facebook instead, blaming zero bail for their poor job performance.
They shouldn't have to convince the judge of anything the first offense, stolen car, stolen property and narcotics found in the car on the first stop are a felony where I come from and he should have been locked up until he can make bail or his hearing. Had he been stealing my property and car he may have gotten himself a .380 in his ass.
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Old 05-09-2021, 02:20 PM
 
Location: East of the Burgh.
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Whats the alternative...allow bail and give the wealthy an advantage?
Please explain this makes no sense.
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Old 05-09-2021, 02:23 PM
 
Location: East of the Burgh.
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Oh, you are wrong on that, check your local jail and see how many are sitting behind bars, unable to pay their high bail...There are quite a few in my area, the judges make the bail high on purpose, knowing they cannot pay it.
Maybe they shouldn't put themselves in that position in the first place.
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Old 05-09-2021, 02:26 PM
 
Location: East of the Burgh.
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Sounds like you made that up.

So "small government, strict Constitutionalist" conservatives want people held in jail before trial. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? There is no legal basis to hold everyone in jail just because they've been accused -- unless the person poses a clear and present violent danger to society.
Oh please, the cops caught him red handed 3 times what else do you want.
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Old 05-09-2021, 02:28 PM
 
Location: East of the Burgh.
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This is how the founders intended the American system of justice to be!!


They never believed people should be held to their crimes FOR LIFE either!


If you dont like American justice, there are plenty of other countries that have much different systems in place
You have a cockeyed interpretation of the constitution.
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Old 05-09-2021, 02:30 PM
 
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Maybe they shouldn't put themselves in that position in the first place.
Are you actually trying to argue that the police never arrest an innocent person?
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Old 05-09-2021, 02:37 PM
 
Location: East of the Burgh.
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Are you actually trying to argue that the police never arrest an innocent person?
The op was not an example of an "innocent person" he was caught in the commission of a crime 3 times within 24 hrs. Assuming someone innocent might be acceptable if he were only arrested once, but three times?
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Old 05-09-2021, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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The op was not an example of an "innocent person" he was caught in the commission of a crime 3 times within 24 hrs. Assuming someone innocent might be acceptable if he were only arrested once, but three times?
But this was April 29, 2020 when convicted criminals were being released from jail due to covid. So no point arresting this guy.
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