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Old 05-14-2021, 10:59 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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It's funny that our friends on the left seem shocked that Republicans wouldn't approve of Liz Cheney acting like a good Democrat with severe TDS since that's what our friends on the left look for in their leaders.

AKA: Telling the truth as opposed to the lunatic fringe that would have us believe January 6 was just a normal tourist day in DC.
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Old 05-14-2021, 11:04 AM
 
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Trump got more votes in Wyoming than Liz. What did she do? goes after the base over and over.


The party tells her to cool down you will keep your position but cool down, make Biden the center point. What did she do? flips the party off and talks about Trump and guess who? the base as the center of attention and putting the party's objectives in the back seat.


Then she is shocked with Democrats that she is being replaced. LMAO! I'm not even counting the time she joined Pelosi and Democrats to go after Trump or her impeachment vote. Those acts were forgiven by the party but everything has its limits. She made her bed.
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Old 05-14-2021, 11:23 AM
 
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Trump got more votes in Wyoming than Liz. What did she do? goes after the base over and over.


The party tells her to cool down you will keep your position but cool down, make Biden the center point. What did she do? flips the party off and talks about Trump and guess who? the base as the center of attention and putting the party's objectives in the back seat.


Then she is shocked with Democrats that she is being replaced. LMAO! I'm not even counting the time she joined Pelosi and Democrats to go after Trump or her impeachment vote. Those acts were forgiven by the party but everything has its limits. She made her bed.

And so has the lunatic fringe with their fantasies of a stolen election and January 6 being just a normal tourist day in DC.
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Old 05-14-2021, 11:30 AM
 
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Her father, Dick Cheney, was a sinister hawk who not only pushed for the February 2003 invasion of Iraq, but he also peddled the lie that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction; he went around the country in 2002, publicly speaking and stating "there is no doubt" Iraq had WMDs when Iraq didn't.

Cheney pushed for war in Iraq within weeks after 9/11, and he personally visited the Pentagon numerous times, creating an atmosphere whereby analysts felt coerced to produce reports which matched what Bush administration officials were saying out loud.

Dick Cheney was the only neocon of the Bush era who rivaled John McCain and John Bolton in warmongering.

Liz Cheney will not depart from the party line; she will not rebel against her father.

President Trump started NO NEW WARS. He did what Obama, Bush 43, Clinton, Bush 41, and Reagan did not do: he kept the U.S. military from startling new military conflicts abroad.

Liz Cheney being out of power is a good thing. She'd be no less to send American troops to be maimed and killed on false grounds than Hillary Clinton would.

Cheney father and daughter, Hillary and Bill, Bush 43, Obama.... warmongers, all. The blood of millions is on their hands.
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Old 05-14-2021, 11:32 AM
 
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And so has the lunatic fringe with their fantasies of a stolen election and January 6 being just a normal tourist day in DC.
Funny, it worked for you Democrats for 2016 and Georgia elections and the Russian hoax and BLM violent protests that crickets came from Liz and you Dems. I guess you Democrats don't view yourselves as lunatic fringes. You are normal.

This is like Monique fat shaming Oprah and having the B.S. to lecture us that she isn't fat. You Dems take the comedy and b.s too far.
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Old 05-14-2021, 12:19 PM
 
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It could be for political advantage down the line for her future and maybe great theatre for now, in part, plus she prob. can't stand the guy.
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Old 05-14-2021, 12:25 PM
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Actually its just because she's a conservative instead of a populist. That's all. There is no party for conservatives anymore.
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Old 05-14-2021, 12:40 PM
 
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personally I think that she, like Mitt Romney are just apart of that wing of the GOP that does not like the fact that Trump goes against the establishment.

There's clearly two halves of the party at this point that came into play after Trump was elected--those who want the same "conservative" angle of the GOP that has always existed(i.e. "low corporate taxes, anti abortion etc etc...Democrats LOVE this wing because they know they can win against them)--and those who support Trump's view as the new direction (i.e. anti illegal immigration, low taxes, bring jobs back to the US, allies paying fair share etc etc).

The Liz Cheneys , Mitt Romney's and the Bushes are apart of the old blue vein guard...they have a vested interest in maintaining power amongst a small circle of the establishment and they are a "keep things as is" regardless of what the common voter wants...Trumps' version addresses the needs of the voters from a very cut the middle man out--straight from the desk to the customer approach.


I don't think that the GOP power brokers want her out--it's the voters who wanted her out, and some party members are listening for the sake of their own seats.
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Old 05-14-2021, 01:03 PM
 
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Actually its just because she's a conservative instead of a populist. That's all. There is no party for conservatives anymore.

She fooled you also. Don't confuse neo con with conservative.. She supported Trump on tax cuts, immigration reform and 90% with Trump EXCEPT the Neo Con wars.


If you think being conservative is keep lying about the wars and keep lying to stay there forever and call the base of her own party "nazis sympathizers" if they no longer believe the b.s then she really fooled you in what conservatism really means. Even the Libertarians think she is full of b.s. in foreign policy.
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Old 05-14-2021, 01:10 PM
 
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personally I think that she, like Mitt Romney are just apart of that wing of the GOP that does not like the fact that Trump goes against the establishment.
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I have two points to make here:
  • Trump is very much the establishment, they are like hand and glove. This is why the big dark money is behind Trump. This is why they could work together on the tax breaks for the very wealthy, among other things.
  • Romney and Cheney know that Trump lied about the election and are brave enough to speak out. Basically everyone who isn't in a coma knows it. Trump does not care about the rule of law nor the republic, Trump cares about Trump, and he is dangerous to both.
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