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This lady is more proof that the only thing Biden’s administration is competent at hiring people that are smug, out of touch with reality and incompetent
She doesn't seem to get that at least 50% of U.S. electricity comes from coal or natural gas (fine sources of energy, which alot of us depend on, but they are not emissions-free). So a bunch of electric cars riding around right now charge their batteries using fossil fuels. So electric cars are not 100% clean or green or whatever it's called. Folks like the energy secretary like to just paint right over that fact.
Very few can do that and ones that do still have electric bills and TWENTY year paybacks on the initial investment even with all the Government Subsidies that other taxpayers pay for so you can be smug.
If you live in Florida you can. Judging by the growing number of roofs with solar panels in cities within Florida I think many here have figured that out too. Many more electric cars around too.
Technology will advance regardless of our politics or traditions.
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She needs to go stick her wet finger in a light socket and flip the power switch on.
Electric cars are no "greener" than gas-powered cars. The ONLY motivation here is money (as in making more of it). It always is. That and control. You force the population into driving only electric cars, you automatically exclude 90% of the population because the are way too expensive for most people. When you can get the price down to the 14K that I paid for my NEW car, we can talk. And when you can get me spending the equivalent of 50 mpg on "powering" the thing, again, we can talk. When you can get the range to more than a couple hundred miles without "fueling up," we can talk. Until then, take a hike.
Gee, how'd she wind up in Biden's administration? Profit and control are very much the pole stars of Republicans with their worship of corporations and desire to control peoples' medical decisions and bedroom activities.
Well that power doesn't come from this pipeline. That is one point electric has for it. We have a power grid, not a pipeline grid.
I can't speak to the total lifecycle, but in terms of "greeness" post-build, the electric cars do win. Large power plants are easier to control emissions at than multiple little sources. Plus many power plants don't have ongoing emissions (nuclear, hydro, solar) or their emissions to power ratio over the total life cycle is huge (nuclear, hydro).
We have too few nuke, hydro or strictly solar power plants right now, but plenty of gas and coal fired plants.
How does that gas get to the plant? How does that coal get to the plant?
It doesnt magic itself there, but comes via diesel and gas powered rail, trucks, and even (gasp!) pipelines.
I have an electric car and Biden's incompetence is still affecting me because I'm visiting Florida and now worried if I can get gas for the ICE car my sister in law has.
This lady is more proof that the only thing Biden’s administration is competent at hiring people that are smug, out of touch with reality and incompetent
She was horrible for Michigan as governor and now this? She does realize EVERYTHING goes up with a shortage of fuel. Democrats are either brain dead or all they care about is pandering to every special interest group at the expense of the masses. Pathetic.
Solar here costs $25,000 Canadian for a 1500 sq. ft. home including installation ....Presently my monthly electric bill averages $150 per month, so that $150 amounts to $1,800 per year... The solar would be paid off with those savings in less than 14 years....From that point on I'm saving $1,800 plus whatever increase in the cost of electric from the grid is in 14 years....In other words the solar would pay for itself. Makes good sense to me...If I hook my solar up to the grid it would be a much larger savings.
No problem running my Bolt on that.
I'm into solar for personal home use myself. I have installed SV and ST systems for personal projects for years.
What you did not add to your ROI example though is system efficiency and degradation. How well do your panels produce in 14 years, and what is their life expectancy over all? Also add storage maintenance costs.
Home solar is not "fire and forget".
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