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Old 05-13-2021, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Can you go to concerts? Hockey games? Can you leave the country? Can your non-canadian friends come into the country to see you?

Maybe you don't know what lockdown means? You don't see anything to get mad about since all this is happening with .00000001% of your population dying per day?
Yes we can leave the country. Why do you think we can't?

It's not just people dying, it's long term health concerns, and concern of overwhelming the health system.

People survive covid, but sometimes by missing a leg, or needing a lung transplant.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2ncspVEhqs

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Old 05-13-2021, 12:04 PM
 
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Perhaps you don't understand the concept of risk?

You have a better chance of dying driving your car to work than dying from covid in Canada.

Do you understand that?
Do you understand that being in a car accident isn't contagious?

If it was, and one car driver bad driving habits were contagious to other drivers, and you had thousands of car accidents because of it, that trying to mitigate the carnage is a smart thing to do? Even if MOST of those involved in the car accidents survive, they may not come out of it whole.

It's a really bad analogy to start with, and borders on how a child would argue a point.
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Old 05-13-2021, 12:06 PM
 
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Where are you living in Canada? Most major cities in most provinces have been in on and off lockdown mode (no dine-in, 50 customers max stores, no unnecessary travelling, no indoor-outdoor sports ....) since last year.
That is not a lockdown.
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Old 05-13-2021, 12:09 PM
 
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Do you understand that being in a car accident isn't contagious?

If it was, and one car driver bad driving habits were contagious to other drivers, and you had thousands of car accidents because of it, that trying to mitigate the carnage is a smart thing to do? Even if MOST of those involved in the car accidents survive, they may not come out of it whole.

It's a really bad analogy to start with, and borders on how a child would argue a point.
Uhhhh what's that have to do with anything?

Even though driving in a car isn't contagious, IT STILL KILLS MORE PEOPLE THAN COVID.

You still take that risk every day that is greater than covid.

How long will you advocate for your government to keep you locked down? What is the number of acceptable covid deaths per day where you will no longer wish to have your freedoms removed?

Please provide us with a number.

Thank you.
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Old 05-13-2021, 12:09 PM
 
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That's how a lot of Canadians are. "If I just keep doing what I'm told to do, everything will be all right." It's important to understand how deep this ethos runs.

It's probably about time to post this classic clip from a Canadian on Spring Break last spring:

https://twitter.com/ZNeveri/status/1349460356595376133

Anyone want to "debunk" anything he said?
I stopped when he said vaccines wouldn't be effective.
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Old 05-13-2021, 12:11 PM
 
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I stopped when he said vaccines wouldn't be effective.
He was SPOT ON.

We've been hearing for a long time now that "vaccines won't stop mutations," and "you'll still be able to spread even with vaccines." blah blah blah.
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Old 05-13-2021, 12:16 PM
 
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Uhhhh what's that have to do with anything?

Even though driving in a car isn't contagious, IT STILL KILLS MORE PEOPLE THAN COVID.

You still take that risk every day that is greater than covid.

How long will you advocate for your government to keep you locked down? What is the number of acceptable covid deaths per day where you will no longer wish to have your freedoms removed?

Please provide us with a number.

Thank you.
This is what we are dealing with folks.

Someone who thinks all manners of death are equal and should be treated the same.

Also your ' stats " are incorrect for what it's worth.

I chose 2019 since it was a " normal " year.

Deaths by car accident in the USA around 38,000

Deaths by Covid in 2020 and 2021, well, we all know that it's MUCH higher.

As for restrictions, they have been changed as the situation changes. Sometimes there are stricter ,sometimes they aren't.

Anyway, it's a lovely day here I'm going to the beach and then for a nice cold beer at my local pub.
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Old 05-13-2021, 12:23 PM
 
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This is what we are dealing with folks.

Someone who thinks all manners of death are equal and should be treated the same.

Also your ' stats " are incorrect for what it's worth.

I chose 2019 since it was a " normal " year.

Deaths by car accident in the USA around 38,000

Deaths by Covid in 2020 and 2021, well, we all know that it's MUCH higher.

As for restrictions, they have been changed as the situation changes. Sometimes there are stricter ,sometimes they aren't.

Anyway, it's a lovely day here I'm going to the beach and then for a nice cold beer at my local pub.
Deaths are at a couple dozen a day and falling! In the USA they are falling dramatically. Right now there is nowhere near as much chance of dying from covid as there is of in a car!

This is what we're talking about, not all virus deaths from last year.

Keep wishing for your government to call the shots in your life. It's bizarre, but I guess you're okay with it.
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Old 05-13-2021, 12:43 PM
 
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That is old news .
The problem with Canada has nothing to do with leftist or rightist. It is Feds throwing $ at the Covid problem, no one in the PMO wanting to take the responsibility, and no prov wanting to rock the boat.[/QUOTE]

Didn't study much Canadian history of much about Canada in school, did you?

The highlighted made me laugh. I suggest you do a little research on Canadian Provincial and Federal relations.

Provinces, aren't shy on making demands.
Most Americans would call you crazy if you told them that Canada entered both world wars long before we did. They truly believe that we are Canada`s protector and that`s why Canada doesn`t waste all of their money on war toys. Nope, not much Canadian history taught here.
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Old 05-13-2021, 12:55 PM
 
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Most Americans would call you crazy if you told them that Canada entered both world wars long before we did. They truly believe that we are Canada`s protector and that`s why Canada doesn`t waste all of their money on war toys. Nope, not much Canadian history taught here.
Well, in reality the USA is the protector of ALL democracies around the world.

Our strength is a deterrent to anyone that would attack them. Obviously.

Canada benefits from that, as well as any other civilized, democratic nation.

China could annex Canada in an afternoon if the USA wasn't in the picture. Just like Hitler did to France.
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