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nah, I'm not simplistic. I never used the word immoral or lazy (your words) I said they have to take responsibility for their votes and actions and try to play chess to understand life. You can't make moves and feel shocked what happens down the line.
You can't complain about mass incarceration and cops and vote over 90% for the grandfather of mass incarceration in the WH. You can't complain that jobs play low when you voted over 90% the man that has sold America for cheap labor to China.
You can't complain that your schools sucks and keep voting for the same government.
You can't complain about black deaths by cops while ignoring the elephant in the room in black communities and continue to vote for the same government.
I mean, what responsibility you demand of blacks here? You sarcastically ask what the conservatives will do for blacks. It doesn't matter, it's going to be rejected before it gets to a desk to sign, so why bother?
How about doing the opposite of the failures in black communities? that's a start. Whatever they are doing for the mediocre schools, try the opposite. Whatever they are doing for the mediocre security, try the opposite. Whatever mediocre economy system they have, try the opposite. Start there but if you are not going to demand responsibility from blacks, it doesn't matter.
Are you aware that there's already many programs in place to address this? And there's people that directly address these issues?
It has nothing to do with politics but the community. Many people weren't raised right or don't take advantage of the services available to get them on the right track but that has nothing to do with politics.
I'm not even sure if this topic is even geared towards politics anymore because you're basically talking about community level issues.
Blacks in New York, DC, Maryland, Massachusetts, and Virginia(Liberal-leaning states) are generally wealthier than Blacks in Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Arkansas(Conservative-leaning states) but it has very little to do politics. There's a whole plethora of things that result in these outcomes.
so now the conspiracy is that the Dixiecrats didn't take over the Republican party in the South until 1994 and their only similarity is that they are white. Congratulations! You discovered the big secret.
There is NOTHING in the Republican party in 1994 that resembles anything of the dixiecrats democrat party of the south. Not even 1 thing. Not even the same people but since they are white, well, that's the connection. Case Solved! The GOP are racists.
I told you Democrats were voting over 80% Democrat since FDR and the new deal. It has nothing to in 1994 in the GOP taking the south. I don't see any connection with being against the civil rights law and the 1994 Republican party since the Republicans are more of a party of Law and Order than Democrats, they want all laws enforced. Just because the Republican party is against the liberal policies of the left doesn't mean they are against black people.
That's the problem, if whites don't come with liberalism or socialism then they are not helping blacks and don't care about blacks. That's what the left has sold for 90 years. If you don't help blacks from the Democrat platform, you are a racist and don't care about black people. I don't believe it but it's sad that 90% of blacks do.
They is a famous saying in Spanish countries that says: "puedes llevar el burro al rio pero no lo puedes obligar a tomar agua" I like using the horse better than a donkey (even though Democrats uses a Donkey for the party). I don't want people to feel insulted and miss the point of the saying.
You are saying a lot of things that are not being said and then harping on it...
Are you aware that there's already many programs in place to address this? And there's people that directly address these issues?
It has nothing to do with politics but the community. Many people weren't raised right or don't take advantage of the services available to get them on the right track but that has nothing to do with politics.
I'm not even sure if this topic is even geared towards politics anymore because you're basically talking about community level issues.
Blacks in New York, DC, Maryland, Massachusetts, and Virginia(Liberal-leaning states) are generally wealthier than Blacks in Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Arkansas(Conservative-leaning states) but it has very little to do politics. There's a whole plethora of things that result in these outcomes.
Are you aware that there's already many programs in place to address this? And there's people that directly address these issues?
It has nothing to do with politics but the community. Many people weren't raised right or don't take advantage of the services available to get them on the right track but that has nothing to do with politics.
I'm not even sure if this topic is even geared towards politics anymore because you're basically talking about community level issues.
Blacks in New York, DC, Maryland, Massachusetts, and Virginia(Liberal-leaning states) are generally wealthier than Blacks in Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Arkansas(Conservative-leaning states) but it has nothing to do politics. There's a whole plethora of things that result in these outcomes.
You have it correct. Being raised poorly and behaving poorly is something that neither Republican or Democrat can do much about. Most of the issues many people are speaking of are on community levels. Crime, people murdering one another, I don't count on the President to do anything about it. There are some things that neither party can do much about.
I'm more interested in helping all Americans, including blacks, see how much better life is under conservative principles. I do note, however, that Trump's share of the black vote increased from 2016 to 2020, so at least more black people are seeing the light.
I don't like pandering to any particular identity group. We're supposed to be in this together.
I'm more interested in helping all Americans, including blacks, see how much better life is under conservative principles. I do note, however, that Trump's share of the black vote increased from 2016 to 2020, so at least more black people are seeing the light.
I don't like pandering to any particular identity group. We're supposed to be in this together.
I agree with you but sadly many blacks doesn't see it. What can you do?
It's some folks here who are deep in their feelings how another race votes. It's almost comical to see. This thread further proves black folks point. Makes you wonder about some folks!!
I mean...I'm not saying much. I'm just saying that a lot of issues can be traced back to how people were raised and the values instilled into them early on, irrespective of politics.
My mom grew up in rural North Carolina, working in the fields with her 9 siblings day in and day out and her parents were very strict. She moved to NYC(and eventually CT) as an adult working multiple jobs while getting her college education.
My dad grew up Texas with a similar background, except more urban since he was near Houston. He had a job at 14, managed to get a lot of jobs from being a firefighter, construction worker, Army veteran, salesman, truck driver, policeman, etc with only a community college education.
Neither of my parents support Trump or are particularly fond of the GOP(to be fair, they're not fond of the DNC either) but their values and lifestyles overruled whatever politicians or policies they ever supported.
At the end of the day, politics can help resolve some issues, particularly on the economic front, but it can't impact a whole community. That's up to the people themselves.
Traditionally, Black Americans have been a conservative lot. They attended church, believed in the sanctity of life, and lived frugal, responsible lives. They were very industrious, owning businesses at a per capita rate larger than White America. They also believed in the sanctity of marriage, exhibiting a higher rate of successful two person marriages than their white counterparts, per capita.
Fast forward to now. It's established that the 1964 "Great Society" edict from the racist LBJ did much to destroy the Black nuclear family, but many traditions remained in tact, but even those seem to be slipping away in favor of "woke culture".
So what happened? Is it as simple as 1964 & being woke? I don't believe so.
Hmm...
When did White America become so liberal ( and why?)
Traditionally, White Americans have been a conservative lot.
It was only few decades ago, when White American suburbia attended church, believed in sanctity of life, and lived "frugal, responsible lives."
So what happened here?
You better get these answers first, before asking Black Americans what happened to THEM and why.
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