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Old 05-17-2021, 06:56 AM
 
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Google largely controls the information flowing to people on the internet. Then FB. Then Apple. These 3 companies cornered much of the market, not to mention Google can play with search algorithms to hide websites it doesn't want you to see.

The internet was a huge revolution, a breakthrough for the common man to get information unprocessed, and unfiltered. Now, we're seeing a regression.

While technically their company, their rules, we should start looking at breaking some monopolies into pieces.

 
Old 05-17-2021, 07:41 AM
 
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These vaccines do not even remotely compare to the flu vaccine - link
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As a matter of comparison: There are 20 to 30 deaths reported every year to VAERS related to the flu shot. That’s with 195 million receiving flu shots. Compare that to the COVID shot, which resulted in 2,602(over 4,400 now) reported deaths through 77 million vaccinations.

That’s a stunningly high ratio of deaths to vaccinations, the highest for any vaccine in U.S. history, and yet no major media outlet has launched an investigation.
And the European database is reporting more than double that with FEWER vaccinations. - link

The above is passive, this below is an actual full assessment of 500 nursing home patients
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A physician with a practice in the Kansas City area told LeoHohmann.com that of a recent 500-person sampling of nursing-home patients who received the COVID injection, 22 died within 48 hours. That represents an astonishing 4.4 percent death rate. Most people in the Kansas City area nursing homes are receiving the Pfizer shot, he said.

“I can’t prove they all died of the vaccine, all I can prove is it happened within 48 hours,” the physician told LeoHohmann.com.

“The requirements are they only need to be monitored for 15 minutes. So we are never going to know the real numbers,”
Why the Media censorship?
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“So I think this was effectively a scrubbing, like we’ve seen elsewhere. There is a Trusted News Initiative, which is very important for Americans to understand, this was announced Dec. 10, and this is a coalition of all the major media and government stakeholders in vaccination, where they are not going to allow any negative information about vaccines to get into the popular media because they’re concerned about vaccine hesitancy
 
Old 05-17-2021, 08:31 AM
 
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How many deaths would we have had we not closed the schools and over-ran the hospital system. Imagine New York situations with the hospital system happening damn near everywhere. Many would have died from lack of care had we didn't shut it down.
Probably about the same number. When you compare states that were mostly open to states that were mostly closed you don’t see a benefit to shutdowns and restrictions.
 
Old 05-17-2021, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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I gave you data. Cancer and heart deaths were up. Nothing magical about the relative lack of accessing routine and more urgent medical care during the Pandemic. Diabetes does not commonly cause death, but is a comorbidity.
And I responded with a quote from the paragraph that you must not have read.

So diabetes is down or up?
 
Old 05-17-2021, 08:46 AM
 
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There is no proof that Covid measures have decimated the flu.

The flu virus is smaller than Covid, is more likely to be transmitted via the air, can pass through a porous mask easier. Receptors on the flu virus can bind to more cells than Sars-Cov-2 can.

The reason R0 is lower for the flu is there is more natural immunity for the flu than Sars-Cov-2.

Not all locals had equal measures. In Florida, many schools remained open, crowded indoor venues without masks were open most of the pandemic, and mask compliance is a lot lower than other states, yet the flu is nonexistant here as well.

Another theory is that being infected with Sars-Cov-2 generates a temporary immunity that blocks the flu virus. Something similar happens with the rhinovirus and Sars-Cov-2, but in reverse.
1. R0 is defined assuming completely susceptible population. Effective reproduction number does depend on the susceptible population.

2. The flu has been decimated by the Covid countermeasures (it's not just masking, it's working from home, half empty schools, distancing, isolating when sick, etc.). Essentially zero positive test rates for the flu show that.

3. You can have any theories you like.
 
Old 05-17-2021, 08:47 AM
 
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1. R0 is defined assuming completely susceptible population. Effective reproduction number does depend on the susceptible population.

2. The flu has been decimated by the Covid countermeasures (it's not just masking, it's working from home, half empty schools, distancing, isolating when sick, etc.). Essentially zero positive test rates for the flu show that.

3. You can have any theories you like.

You assume that covid restrictions decimated flu but some scientists note that when one virus takes hold it suppresses others for the time being.
 
Old 05-17-2021, 09:21 AM
 
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@Bentbow - A meme you will like, Critical Thinkers vs Mainstream Normies - link
 
Old 05-17-2021, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Eastern N.C.
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In a random population of 150 million Americans, the approximate number of vaccinated folks, there will be 4,000 deaths per day from all causes. Since those vaccinated are generally older with more comorbidities that number is probably a bit higher. With the 'static' of that large number, I would see it as very difficult to assign blame on the vaccine.

To further break it down, the US is giving about 2.5 million pokes per day. The odds are 120 will die over the next 48 hours.
 
Old 05-17-2021, 09:28 AM
 
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1. R0 is defined assuming completely susceptible population. Effective reproduction number does depend on the susceptible population.

2. The flu has been decimated by the Covid countermeasures (it's not just masking, it's working from home, half empty schools, distancing, isolating when sick, etc.). Essentially zero positive test rates for the flu show that.

3. You can have any theories you like.
2. We know flu cases are low. we don't know why. Mitigation measures have been applied inconsistently from state to state and country to country, yet flu cases are still low. if anything, there is no proof, just a guess.
 
Old 05-17-2021, 09:36 AM
 
Location: New England
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Another comment from someone who thinks they're smarter than everyone else. Funny how some change their view after testing positive or getting sick, or having a family member die from/ of/ with/ because covid.

But bla, bla, bla.
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