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Old 05-16-2021, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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1) Palestinians elect leadership that WANTS peace, rather than endless war.
2) Democrats stop funding anti-Israel terrorists

The end.
"There is no argument over the choice between peace and war, but there is only one guaranteed way you can have peace, and you can have it in the next second, surrender. Admittedly there is a risk in any course we follow other than this." - Ronald Reagan

 
Old 05-16-2021, 11:41 AM
 
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You gotta chose between people who see what Israel really does to Palestinians and are calling out the actions vs the right that harbors people that literally believe Jews control the world and marched with Tiki Torches saying "Jews will not replace us".

The left is just calling this out:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreak...d_son_who_was/

The anti-semantics that right just don't want Jews to exist because they believe Jews are pushing white genocide. Jews at the moment are useful to them.
Wow. You’re back to that one single episode from five years ago, when a fringe group of nobodies said that about the Jews? What about the fact that RIGHT NOW we have antisemitic Democrats IN CONGRESS, cheering on the Hamas Jew-haters?

And what Israel does to the Palestinians? They would have peace and their own land if the leaders they elected agreed to recognize Israel’s right to exist as well. Their hate for Jews won’t allow for that.

(More liberal reverse world.)
 
Old 05-16-2021, 11:45 AM
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Why is it that so many Liberal Jews absolutely insist on blaming Israel 100% and are unable to even acknowledge that Palestinians have elected terrorists that will reject any and all offers of peace? Israel has agreed to concede the land as long as Hamas agrees that it doesn’t want to wipe Israel out to sea. But the Jew-hating Hamas refuses.

And Democrats have signaled to Hamas that they will be turning the spigot back on.
Because the bad acts of the Palestinians have been acknowledged and condemned allready no one is exhonorating them. And Israel has continually placed fortified communities in the West Bank in violation of the treatie they signed with the Palistinians. Lets also not forget that significant numbers who reside in Israel don't even acknowledge that the country even exists and their government is legitimate.

I have seen anything from the current administration other than continuing pressure to cease fire and open a dialogue to work through this. If the last President hadn't take the USA off of her established position in the region we might not be seeing the instability we have now.
 
Old 05-16-2021, 11:45 AM
 
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Absolutely true!

And how sad is it that non-Jews such as yourself recognize this, but (Democrat) Jews do not?
I have a few Jews in my circle of friends. They are all liberal and over the course of the last years have soured on the Netanyahu government. They say a lot of leftist and liberal Israeli Jews are moving to Western Europe primarily to Germany because Israel has become to extremist and conservative.

My Jewish Friends Kids are even worse. They have all gone through College and have been indoctrinated by the SJW/CRT crowd. They call Israel an Apartheid State and use terms like settler colonialism in regards to Israel. They have been severely radicalized.
 
Old 05-16-2021, 11:46 AM
 
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1) Palestinians elect leadership that WANTS peace, rather than endless war.
2) Democrats stop funding anti-Israel terrorists

The end.
The first is not going the happen.
The second does not work. Funding sources are international.
 
Old 05-16-2021, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Israel offered land to the “Palestinians” on several occasions and they refused to take it. Israel offered the land on condition of receiving peace and recognition as a Jewish state in return. Not much to ask, is it? You give a huge piece of land and in return you get a promise on a piece of paper. But the “Palestinians” refused to give this piece of paper, because they intend to destroy Israel.
Imagine if we fought a war with Hispanics, they won, and then took control of 2/3rds of the land, offering 1/3rd of the land to "Americans" in exchange for recognition to their right to the other 2/3rds of the land, all while they allow unlimited immigration from Latin-America, and create walled-in settlements in the 1/3rd of the land supposedly set aside for Americans.

And let's pretend the only reason there were any Hispanics in this country in the first place, was that we lost a war with Britain, and Britain made a special deal with Hispanics to allow them to relocate here in unlimited numbers, even though all Americans opposed it.
 
Old 05-16-2021, 11:48 AM
 
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The first is not going the happen.
The second does not work. Funding sources are international.
So you’re basically admitting the obstacle to peace lies with the Palestinians? All they have to do is elect non-terrorists who will be willing to recognize Israel’s right to exist - and they’d have land and peace.
 
Old 05-16-2021, 11:50 AM
 
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So you’re basically admitting the obstacle to peace lies with the Palestinians? All they have to do is elect non-terrorists who will be willing to recognize Israel’s right to exist - and they’d have land and peace.
That’s a very big all they have to do. I don’t see it happening.
 
Old 05-16-2021, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Let me be the bad guy here, feel free to attack.

Here goes it, The Arab state of Palestine never existed, and the Palestine Authority never had any land that is part of today’s Israel.

If you’re thinking of land acquired in the Six Day War, that land was acquired from Jordan and Egypt after they attacked Israel. Neither Jordan nor Egypt wants its land back, because the inhabitants there are too scrappy. Israel has floated the idea of turning it over to the Palestinian Authority in return for various arrangements including demilitarization; but there hasn’t been any agreement because the Palestinian Authority doesn’t see coexistence as part of its ultimate goal.

People should stop blaming Israel for everything just because it has a strong military.
 
Old 05-16-2021, 11:52 AM
 
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I have a few Jews in my circle of friends. They are all liberal and over the course of the last years have soured on the Netanyahu government. They say a lot of leftist and liberal Israeli Jews are moving to Western Europe primarily to Germany because Israel has become to extremist and conservative.

My Jewish Friends Kids are even worse. They have all gone through College and have been indoctrinated by the SJW/CRT crowd. They call Israel an Apartheid State and use terms like settler colonialism in regards to Israel. They have been severely radicalized.
Yes, it’s very sad. And what you say about the college kids is so true. Israel is the only country they can count on to give safe harbor if antisemites pull another Holocaust, and yet they are being brainwashed to denigrate and despise the very nation that would save them.

My cousin’s daughter is at a liberal Ivy, and she spews all sorts of the most venomous things about Israel. Radicalized is right!
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