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Oh yes, thanks for bringing up Africa. Africa was also decimated by Muslim invaders. As it still is today. Countries like Kenya, South Sudan, and Tanzania have to struggle against Al Qaeda and ISIS>
Pagan Africans received no protection either b/c under the Koran they are idol worshippers. So invading rulers like the various caliphates were free to plunder and kill their way through the land. Rulers like the Ottomans and Mamluks were active in the slave trade and were responsible for the bondage of hundreds of millions of Blacks.
Here is a documentary of their Black Turkish descendants from slaves and the racism they still experience:
I'm not disagreeing with you that religion of Islam isn't used to justify conquests and violence. I'm disagreeing with you in that it is somehow different in comparison to Christianity, or at least history of Christianity. Anybody who thinks otherwise engages in revisionist history.
The difference is a religion or nationality is something you can change during your life. Yes, people are born into certain countries and religions by their parents. But it is not static. They have free will. And a mind if they just have the courage to use it. Now compare that to race or ethnicity which are characteristics you cannot nor should change.
I would go one step further and say that Israel wouldn't exist without US support. And, not just our government support, but rather large private support from wealthy Jews in this country.
Many European countries supported the formation of Israel to rid their own countries of Jews.
Jews, like Christians and Muslims are not monolithic. Jews are separated into sects. Within the Haredi, many sects have opposed to Zionism, all along.
Israel is a substantially divided country, nothing to do with Palestine.
It is projected that by 2030, 20-25% of Israel will be Haredim due to huge birth rates, while the birth rates among the majority secular Jews continues to decline. The Haredim oppose conscription and receive enormous amounts of financial support from the state which leads to tremendous resentments.
There are relatively huge differences within Haredim as it relates to Zionism and change. The Orthodox Woman of the Wall oppose laws that do not allow them to worship at the wall or read Torah. In contrast, there are so called No Go Zones within some Haredim communities that do not take to secular Jews and sects that do not believe as they do.
The stark divisions within Israeli politics make the US look like one big happy melting pot, especially given Israel’s geo size and small population.
Location: In a city within a state where politicians come to get their PHDs in Corruption
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The difference is a religion or nationality is something you can change during your life. Yes, people are born into certain countries and religions by their parents. But it is not static. They have free will. And a mind if they just have the courage to use it. Now compare that to race or ethnicity which are characteristics you cannot nor should change.
Now you're just pulling things out of your ass.
Radicalism based on religion is a byproduct of poverty rather than religion, in this case Islam. Somalia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria are all hotbeds of radicalism because of extreme poverty. Religion is only a tool used by authoritarian leaders to control the people.
Somalis, Iraqis, Syrians that come to this country and are able to work, and send their kids to schools are much less radical than their counterparts in their home countries. Same religion, different outcomes.
I think too many illegal and legal immigration = problem. Yes legal immigration included. Sooner or later, we must ask ourselves, "How much is too much?"
Immigrants are expensive to taxpayers because the foreign-born population of the United States is more likely to be poor and stay poor.
Assertions that federal tax revenue from immigrants can stabilize the finances of programs such as Medicare and Social Security overlook the truth that immigrants will get old and sick—and that in most cases, the taxes they pay over their working life will not cover the costs of their eventual claims on these programs. No matter how many millions of immigrants we absorb, they can’t help shore up these programs if they’ll need more in benefits than they can ever possibly pay in taxes.
If a goal of immigration policy is to strengthen Social Security and Medicare, it would be wise to accept fewer immigrants overall, but more high-earning ones, who will pay more in taxes over their working years than they will collect in benefits in retirement. Under the present policy favoring large numbers of low-wage earners, the United States is accumulating huge future social-insurance liabilities in exchange for relatively meager tax contributions now.
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Many European countries supported the formation of Israel to rid their own countries of Jews.
Jews, like Christians and Muslims are not monolithic. Jews are separated into sects. Within the Haredi, many sects have opposed to Zionism, all along.
Israel is a substantially divided country, nothing to do with Palestine.
It is projected that by 2030, 20-25% of Israel will be Haredim due to huge birth rates, while the birth rates among the majority secular Jews continues to decline. The Haredim oppose conscription and receive enormous amounts of financial support from the state which leads to tremendous resentments.
There are relatively huge differences within Haredim as it relates to Zionism and change. The Orthodox Woman of the Wall oppose laws that do not allow them to worship at the wall or read Torah. In contrast, there are so called No Go Zones within some Haredim communities that do not take to secular Jews and sects that do not believe as they do.
The stark divisions within Israeli politics make the US look like one big happy melting pot, especially given Israel’s geo size and small population.
You're half right. Israel, due to its constant threat is run for all intents and purposes by IDF and its intelligence counterparts. And by proxy, the right, the Zionist will always run the country.
There is no Biblical/ Torah/ Quran source forbidding marriage between cousins.
Please do a little more research next time. Very well known that about 1/2 of all Muslims are inbred, in Britain this has gotten more publicity due to the public health issues it's created among Pakistani immigrants. Historically, the banned cousin marriage was also a big factor in why Christianity spread north and west, not east to the Inbred Arabs. I suggest you read up on this.
You’re an American, and you want “this whole rotten country” to come crashing down? Why don’t you move to a better country? Th roast think America needs are more anti-Americans.
Is this country not rotten? What will this country be in 30 years?
If you really want to save it, destroy it. It's the only way.
I think too many illegal and legal immigration = problem. Yes legal immigration included. Sooner or later, we must ask ourselves, "How much is too much?"
Immigrants are expensive to taxpayers because the foreign-born population of the United States is more likely to be poor and stay poor.
Assertions that federal tax revenue from immigrants can stabilize the finances of programs such as Medicare and Social Security overlook the truth that immigrants will get old and sick—and that in most cases, the taxes they pay over their working life will not cover the costs of their eventual claims on these programs. No matter how many millions of immigrants we absorb, they can’t help shore up these programs if they’ll need more in benefits than they can ever possibly pay in taxes.
If a goal of immigration policy is to strengthen Social Security and Medicare, it would be wise to accept fewer immigrants overall, but more high-earning ones, who will pay more in taxes over their working years than they will collect in benefits in retirement. Under the present policy favoring large numbers of low-wage earners, the United States is accumulating huge future social-insurance liabilities in exchange for relatively meager tax contributions now.
Excellent, truthful post! Importing millions of illegal aliens is even worse for the same reasons.
Radicalism based on religion is a byproduct of poverty rather than religion, in this case Islam. Somalia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria are all hotbeds of radicalism because of extreme poverty. Religion is only a tool used by authoritarian leaders to control the people.
Somalis, Iraqis, Syrians that come to this country and are able to work, and send their kids to schools are much less radical than their counterparts in their home countries. Same religion, different outcomes.
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
The most extreme radicals have been well educated, wealthy men who were born into prominent families. Notorious figures like Osama bin Laden were billionaires. Others like his successor, Ayman Al Zawahiri, al Qaeda leader was a Medical Doctor. Those were the leaders. The "angel investors" behind Isis and Al Qaeda continue to be prominent wealthy royalty in the Gulf region. Within ISIS and other lesser known paramilitary groups there are many sons of sheikhs with military combat arms experience who were former officers. Their ranks also include software engineers capable of manufacturing autonomous drones , hackers who can infiltrate networks, etc.
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