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Old 05-17-2021, 11:19 AM
 
Location: NC
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Cheney's opinion is backed up by fact, but it goes against the party>country stance.

Gaetz is dead to rights guilty, and he's still got his position.


Your party, your choice. But help me understand why you support this. Even if you beleive Trump's unsupported allegation that the election was stollen, do you really believe that people's lives should be upended because of their opinion?


*(and if you reply with saying it's justified because Dems do it, you're still saying it's justified. You're just saying you're no better than those you critique, so think about how you want to answer this one...)

 
Old 05-17-2021, 11:23 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Myghost View Post
Cheney's opinion is backed up by fact, but it goes against the party>country stance.

Gaetz is dead to rights guilty, and he's still got his position.


Your party, your choice. But help me understand why you support this. Even if you beleive Trump's unsupported allegation that the election was stollen, do you really believe that people's lives should be upended because of their opinion?


*(and if you reply with saying it's justified because Dems do it, you're still saying it's justified. You're just saying you're no better than those you critique, so think about how you want to answer this one...)
"...backed up by fact..."? "Fact" only in the warped minds of liberals.

Cheney is opposed to most everything her constituents and fellow republicans support.

It would be similar to having Ted Cruz in a democrat party leadership role.

Of course, liberals are completely unable to see another viewpoint, as they are blinded by partisanship, and cannot understand why the republicans do not want a left winger, who's constituents hate her, running the party.
 
Old 05-17-2021, 11:32 AM
 
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"...backed up by fact..."? "Fact" only in the warped minds of liberals.

Cheney is opposed to most everything her constituents and fellow republicans support.

It would be similar to having Ted Cruz in a democrat party leadership role.

Of course, liberals are completely unable to see another viewpoint, as they are blinded by partisanship, and cannot understand why the republicans do not want a left winger, who's constituents hate her, running the party.

Clearly you are biased by your emotional attachment to Trump.

Cheney is more of a conservative than Trump EVERE was or has been.
She tolerated Trump because the conservative agenda was her agenda.

The only time she spoke up was after January 6th.

And you accuse others of being blinded by partisanship -- you can't even say that -- you are blinded by your loyalty to Trump...who is loyal to no one but himself.

And she wasn't running the party.

Very emotional rant with little to any reality.

I wouldn't vote for Cheney but I do think the GOP is at a turning point.

Trump is no conservative, not in the traditional sense. And traditional doesn't mean establishment --it means the core values that were the foundation of the GOP for a very long time.

Maybe you like the new GOP but don't pretend Cheney turned her back on the conservatives..
 
Old 05-17-2021, 11:34 AM
 
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Ped-O-Matt Gaetz practices Trumpism.

Trumpism is all that matters in today's Republican party.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trumpism
 
Old 05-17-2021, 11:36 AM
 
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It's pretty simple.
Being a pedophile like Gaetz is acceptable to republicans as long as you unquestionably support the cult leader. If you think for yourself and go against the cult leader like Cheney, that is unforgivable, much worse than merely being a pedophile or child trafficker like Gaetz.
Seems accurate.
Americans get the politicians we deserve. Still clinging to Red versus Blue while like school children.
 
Old 05-17-2021, 11:50 AM
 
Location: NC
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Originally Posted by hawkeye2009 View Post
"...backed up by fact..."? "Fact" only in the warped minds of liberals.

Cheney is opposed to most everything her constituents and fellow republicans support.

It would be similar to having Ted Cruz in a democrat party leadership role.

Of course, liberals are completely unable to see another viewpoint, as they are blinded by partisanship, and cannot understand why the republicans do not want a left winger, who's constituents hate her, running the party.
Should McConnell be removed too?

He implies it is backed up by fact.

https://youtu.be/VI8onTIu-F0

Granted, he did "come around" to Loyalty of Trump > Country....

That you ignored Gaetz crimes is not unnoticed either. That is kind of the point. Is your point that loyalty to Trump SHOULD be valued more than truth and country? I'm seriously asking at this point, because you are repeating Trump's lies, when you (like Cheney) know them to be untrue.
 
Old 05-19-2021, 01:15 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Cheney voted with Trump a ton. Over 90%. Her mistake is ignoring the horrible job Joe Biden is doing and constantly talking about Trump. Constantly going after her own party over a candidate who isn't in office and isn't a threat to the country. She's been doing it for months. A dumb move. That's why she was ousted. She's been yammering about this for a few months instead of going after Biden and the bad job he's doing.
 
Old 05-19-2021, 01:19 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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I'm guessing, only, that Liz Cheney is going to be the one to reinvent the Republican Party, stop it from committing suicide.
 
Old 05-19-2021, 04:50 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Myghost View Post
Cheney's opinion is backed up by fact, but it goes against the party>country stance.

Gaetz is dead to rights guilty, and he's still got his position.


Your party, your choice. But help me understand why you support this. Even if you beleive Trump's unsupported allegation that the election was stollen, do you really believe that people's lives should be upended because of their opinion?


*(and if you reply with saying it's justified because Dems do it, you're still saying it's justified. You're just saying you're no better than those you critique, so think about how you want to answer this one...)
Do you want a history of the dem party? So think about how you want to answer this one.
 
Old 05-19-2021, 04:57 AM
 
Location: U.S.
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Originally Posted by hawkeye2009 View Post
"...backed up by fact..."? "Fact" only in the warped minds of liberals.

Cheney is opposed to most everything her constituents and fellow republicans support.

It would be similar to having Ted Cruz in a democrat party leadership role.

Of course, liberals are completely unable to see another viewpoint, as they are blinded by partisanship, and cannot understand why the republicans do not want a left winger, who's constituents hate her, running the party.
You do know that Cheney was more loyal to Trumpy's agenda than other supposed conservative Republicans right?

Hard to take anything you say seriously when you blatantly lie.
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