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Old 09-06-2021, 12:43 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ATX Wahine View Post
Yes, you *did* say that. It’s right here;
You have a reading comprehension problem. Let me spell it out for you. No I don't foresee medical providers going rogue as in lots of them violating HIPAA. Doesn't mean I don't think there could likely be one or two zealots that violate HIPAA thinking the end justifies the means.

Who knows what comes out of a state that can produce such a wack-a-doo piece of legislation?
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Old 09-06-2021, 01:11 PM
 
Location: TPA
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So I presume right-wing Texas politicians are going to make sure the mother/child/family now have the proper medical care, childcare, healthcare, and financial care so that the baby can grow up and live a happy life. And if the parents dont want it, I presume Texas is going to improve it's adoption system to make sure that child goes to a healthy, supportive home.

Or maybe they will just continue to ignore the baby once its born and turn to shaming the parent(s) for having a baby they couldn't handle in the first place and begrudge providing assistance. Further adding to the problem. Good job Texas.
This reminds me of when right-wingers say "we dont need to ban guns, what we really need to do is focus on mental health"...and then turn around and do zero advocacy for mental health awareness and vote for people who continue to cut mental health programs and funding.

There is no actual care to the specific issue. If there was, Texas wouldve at least said we'll have better sex ed programs. That's the bare minimum. Just passing controversial legislation and walking out the door does nothing to fix the problem and right-wingers cant call themselves pro-life. 0-9 months that sperm/egg/zygote/fetus/baby will be fought to the death for. Once that baby is out of the body, all the care about it goes out the window with it.
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Old 09-06-2021, 01:18 PM
 
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People don`t want to know what actully happens when a baby is aborted. Maybe they should find out.....it isn`t pretty.
Women know exactly what abortion is. It’s her choice.
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Old 09-06-2021, 01:49 PM
 
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How? No one has been able to answer the questions... How would anyone know who's pregnant or how far along they are? Isn't that info most women keep to themselves, especially if they plan on getting an abortion? Or is it public knowledge when any woman is x-weeks pregnant but she doesn't want the baby so she's getting an abortion?
Providers do the same thing with every other procedure/practice. For example, the severe limitations on prescribing scheduled narcotics. This is nothing new.
Did I miss something? Can't women simply get an abortion elsewhere? Seems to me the pro-abortion contingent would be responding Much more constructively if they set up charitable foundations that funded women's travel, etc., to go elsewhere for an abortion.
Unlike abortion, the Right to keep and bear arms actually is enumerated in the US Constitution. A new Amendment would have to be passed and ratified to circumvent that and I just don't see that ever happening.
What makes you think only supposed "bible thumpers" think killing a human life is immoral? Those who are anti-murder exist all over the religious/political/ideological spectrum.
You've asked the same question ad nauseum. I gave you examples. I'm sure there will be others.

Texas Right to Life obviously thinks there are plenty of snitches out there because they set up a website for people to report. It either crashed from people trolling it or they took it down because Planned Parenthood took them to court and they were enjoined from doing anything under the law by a Texas Court until a further hearing.

The laws on narcotics are wrong as well. Plenty of people suffering who are not druggies but can't get the pain meds they need.

I'm sure people are addressing providing transportation to other states, but they shouldn't have to. Nor, should charitable funds need to be spent on this when there are other pressing needs like live children going hungry.

Your right to bear arms won't matter if someone comes up with creative legislation that blocks your ability to achieve standing before the Supremes. Besides, women have the right to abortion as decided by the Supremes, so its no different.

I'm quite sure in this case the people who came up with this legislation are bible thumpers AND busy bodies.
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Old 09-06-2021, 01:58 PM
 
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A Texas County judge issued a restraining order against Texas Right to Life barring them from suing Planned Parenthood under this legislation until a further hearing.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/planned...tag=YHF4eb9d17

Last edited by Blondy; 09-06-2021 at 02:00 PM.. Reason: wrong link
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Old 09-06-2021, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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A Texas County judge issued a restraining order against Texas Right to Life barring them from suing Planned Parenthood under this legislation until a further hearing.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/planned...tag=YHF4eb9d17
That was back on the 3rd likely a higher court will undo that order. There no doubt only matter of time before the Taliban court strikes down Roe V Wade. Next they will legalize stoning of woman.
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Old 09-06-2021, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Austin
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right-wingers cant call themselves pro-life. 0-9 months that sperm/egg/zygote/fetus/baby will be fought to the death for. Once that baby is out of the body, all the care about it goes out the window with it.
Same back atcha. My body my choice, it isn't a baby until the mother says so! ... But if it's a Honduran baby that somehow escaped abortion and it gets spiked across the southern border like a rugby ball then it's sacred and deserving of every bit of our social safety net. You think "right wingers" have a monopoly on hypocrisy?
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Old 09-06-2021, 03:17 PM
 
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I don’t see that anybody is attempting to rob Texas women of reproductive healthcare. They are attempting to mitigate the use of abortion as birth control.

I do not support this law, but I don’t support mass hysteria, either. Watching gay men, senior citizens, and other non-birthers freak out over abortion isn’t exactly “keeping decisions private”. It’s just the next thing to enjoy outrage porn over.
I agree with most of your post. Now, at some point, I do expect a 2nd more limited Roe v Wade case having to do with defining viability as the limit in the 21st century medical viability manner, but this law will not be its basis.
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Old 09-06-2021, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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That was back on the 3rd likely a higher court will undo that order. There no doubt only matter of time before the Taliban court strikes down Roe V Wade. Next they will legalize stoning of woman.
While not as bad as comparisons to Nazis, these comparisons with the Taliban are a little extreme. They go past hyperbole and take away from the argument rather than persuade.
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Old 09-06-2021, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I don’t see that anybody is attempting to rob Texas women of reproductive healthcare. They are attempting to mitigate the use of abortion as birth control.

I do not support this law, but I don’t support mass hysteria, either. Watching gay men, senior citizens, and other non-birthers freak out over abortion isn’t exactly “keeping decisions private”. It’s just the next thing to enjoy outrage porn over.
They aren't attempting to mitigate anything Texas has been attempting completely to shut down abortion clinics through legislation for years. Easy to be short on outrage when you aren't making travel arrangements to a clinic in New Mexico that requires time off from work and additional expense for poor women that can't afford either.

The larger issue is the courts refusal to take the case in 5-4 vote. Nuances aside over the right to hear the lawsuit this is exactly what was promised with the appointment of the 3 new justices. This is one of the most absurd laws I have seen and this being Texas that's a pretty high standard considering their past requirements for clinics.

This was an unnecessary disruption to the lives of poor women but we already know they could care less.
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