Texas Bans Abortions at Heart Beat (illegal, school, financial, Walmart)
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Texas Republicans are going to get voted out, especially if horror stories start coming out about women dying or suffering over the new law. For starters, that a rapist can profit off his crime by suing anybody for $10,000 associated with helping the pregnant woman he raped get an abortion is disgusting. Did so much as one woman help write such a law? I doubt it.
In 2018, voters in Ireland had enough of the horror stories and voted in favor of repealing their near total ban on abortion by 66%.
I agree if this law is allowed to stand for any length of time there will be horror stories.
One can only imagine what may come out of the bounty hunter feature. Although, interestingly something I read suggested that the person bringing suit will be identifiable so if true they may face their own horror stories.
There were about 6-7 women who helped pass the law just from going on names. Whether or not they were involved in writing it or fully understood all the details, who knows.
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So. This thread seems to be somewhat caught up in whether abortion is moral, and women should be more responsible when having sex, and is less about this specific Texas law, that is unique in how it's being enforced.
Imagine this law were about running stop lights instead of abortion. If the State decided they weren't going to issue tickets for running stop lights; it would be up to the public to sue when they suspected this had happened.
So imagine a guy tells his friend, "Amy took me to work yesterday and she ran a stop light". So the guy immediately starts a civil law suit. Not against Amy, but against anyone who might have helped Amy drive that day. Did anyone help buy her the car? Pay for her gas? Jump her car battery that morning when it wouldn't start? THEY'D be taken to civil court.
And if it's found that Amy didn't, in fact, run a stoplight that day because her car's been in the shop for a week, those who helped her drive would be without any recourse whatsoever. They're out their lawyer's fee, their days off work, their time spent in depositions, etc.
Amy would likely be called to be a witness but wouldn't otherwise be involved in the litigation. And the guy who lied about this whole stoplight running incident because Amy had rejected his advances would be completely off the hook, as far as any repercussions.
THIS IS EXACTLY THE WAY THIS NEW ABORTION LAW IS WRITTEN. I'M NOT EXAGGERATING.
So. This thread seems to be somewhat caught up in whether abortion is moral, and women should be more responsible when having sex, and is less about this specific Texas law, that is unique in how it's being enforced.
Imagine this law were about running stop lights instead of abortion. If the State decided they weren't going to issue tickets for running stop lights; it would be up to the public to sue when they suspected this had happened.
So imagine a guy tells his friend, "Amy took me to work yesterday and she ran a stop light". So the guy immediately starts a civil law suit. Not against Amy, but against anyone who might have helped Amy drive that day. Did anyone help buy her the car? Pay for her gas? Jump her car battery that morning when it wouldn't start? THEY'D be taken to civil court.
And if it's found that Amy didn't, in fact, run a stoplight that day because her car's been in the shop for a week, those who helped her drive would be without any recourse whatsoever. They're out their lawyer's fee, their days off work, their time spent in depositions, etc.
Amy would likely be called to be a witness but wouldn't otherwise be involved in the litigation. And the guy who lied about this whole stoplight running incident because Amy had rejected his advances would be completely off the hook, as far as any repercussions.
THIS IS EXACTLY THE WAY THIS NEW ABORTION LAW IS WRITTEN. I'M NOT EXAGGERATING.
Capiche?
Yes that is about how bizarre it is. Not sure if the woman getting or suspected of getting an abortion will be able to be called into court. The law reads like the check list record the doctor is required to prepare is an affirmative defense.
Also as I posted before I have seen something I cant recall where that said the accuser will be identifiable, so they could inadvertently be raining hell down on themselves.
It's a mess and more and more it starts to sound as if TX never had any intention of it being able to do anything except harass providers and make them stop abortions in a very under handed way.
Probably not a provision for this but I would love to see some exasperated judge not only slap the crap out of TX but sanction them in some way as well for such bizarre legislation.
So. This thread seems to be somewhat caught up in whether abortion is moral, and women should be more responsible when having sex, and is less about this specific Texas law, that is unique in how it's being enforced.
Imagine this law were about running stop lights instead of abortion. If the State decided they weren't going to issue tickets for running stop lights; it would be up to the public to sue when they suspected this had happened.
So imagine a guy tells his friend, "Amy took me to work yesterday and she ran a stop light". So the guy immediately starts a civil law suit. Not against Amy, but against anyone who might have helped Amy drive that day. Did anyone help buy her the car? Pay for her gas? Jump her car battery that morning when it wouldn't start? THEY'D be taken to civil court.
And if it's found that Amy didn't, in fact, run a stoplight that day because her car's been in the shop for a week, those who helped her drive would be without any recourse whatsoever. They're out their lawyer's fee, their days off work, their time spent in depositions, etc.
Amy would likely be called to be a witness but wouldn't otherwise be involved in the litigation. And the guy who lied about this whole stoplight running incident because Amy had rejected his advances would be completely off the hook, as far as any repercussions.
THIS IS EXACTLY THE WAY THIS NEW ABORTION LAW IS WRITTEN. I'M NOT EXAGGERATING.
Capiche?
Would you rather that just the person doing the abortion be sued?
Mexico just opened up it's country to legalized abortions reversing years long policy. Now they'll be getting the ladies crossing the border to get their abortions done. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/07/w...-abortion.html
MEXICO CITY — Criminalizing abortion is unconstitutional, Mexico’s Supreme Court ruled on Tuesday, setting a precedent that could lead to legalization of the procedure across this conservative Catholic country of about 130 million people.
Oh my God. Please read the entire thread before commenting. Thank you.
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