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Old 09-09-2021, 04:29 PM
 
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Again, 95% of unintended pregnancies are the result of women not using birth control or using it incorrectly, and only 14.8% of women seeking abortion are married (CDC).
And? That doesn't change the fact that a woman should have autonomy over her own body and make her own reproductive decisions. No one, and I mean no one, should be able to decide FOR a woman that she is going to be a parent when she does not want to be. No one.

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So many of you simply have NO clue. Why even advocate for an issue when you have absolutely NO idea what's even going on?
Those of us who are firmly pro choice know exactly what we are advocating for: women's rights to make their own decisions, unencumbered by those who feel women's reproductive lives should be controlled by state governments, or any government. Personally, I don't care "why" a woman ended up pregnant or how many times she ends up pregnant, or how many abortions she has. All of that is between said woman and her doctor, and NONE of my business. What I care about is her right for self-determination and her right to decide whether or not she wants to carry out her pregnancy. If not, she should be able to have an abortion, regardless of the reason.
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Old 09-10-2021, 08:31 AM
 
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Biden administration sues Texas over this law... someone else can take this link and start a new thread if they want.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58507206
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Old 09-10-2021, 08:35 AM
 
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Biden administration sues Texas over this law... someone else can take this link and start a new thread if they want.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58507206
I believe there already is one, but thanks for sharing.

I wonder if this means the feds will also sue the first organization or person who brings a snitch suit against a provider?
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Old 09-10-2021, 08:45 AM
 
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You get outta here lol.

Women are not required by law to even think about whether or not pregnancy will be a result of sex. Not advocating for that, but that is a fact.

They can take birth control that may or may not work, they can do everything right and still have things go sideways resulting in a pregnancy or they can throw caution to the wind and take their chances.
The same thing happens every time we get behind the wheel of a car. There's always the possibility of a fatal accident. Accepting that is a choice we make to drive the car. Accepting pregnancy is a choice non-sterile childbearing-age women make when they choose to have sex.
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Old 09-10-2021, 08:48 AM
 
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Biden administration sues Texas over this law... someone else can take this link and start a new thread if they want.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58507206
The hypocrisy of the Biden administration never ceases to amaze me.
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Old 09-10-2021, 09:37 AM
 
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The same thing happens every time we get behind the wheel of a car. There's always the possibility of a fatal accident. Accepting that is a choice we make to drive the car. Accepting pregnancy is a choice non-sterile childbearing-age women make when they choose to have sex.
So what? It has no bearing on abortion. The law allows for abortion regardless of any woman taking a chance.

Why are you harping on this. It has nothing to do with anything.
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Old 09-10-2021, 10:33 AM
 
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So what? It has no bearing on abortion.
Indeed it does. You have to be pregnant to get an abortion.
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Why are you harping on this. It has nothing to do with anything.
Some people are saying women who have sex didn't choose to get pregnant. Of course, they did. It's a known possible outcome of having sex, just like having a fatal accident is a known possible outcome of driving a car. We accept those possible outcomes when we choose to take those actions (have sex, drive a car).
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Old 09-10-2021, 10:41 AM
 
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Indeed it does. You have to be pregnant to get an abortion.
Some people are saying women who have sex didn't choose to get pregnant. Of course, they did. It's a known possible outcome of having sex, just like having a fatal accident is a known possible outcome of driving a car. We accept those possible outcomes when we choose to take those actions (have sex, drive a car).
In a car accident you have insurance. For unwanted pregnancy there’s abortion.
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Old 09-10-2021, 10:54 AM
 
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In a car accident you have insurance. For unwanted pregnancy there’s abortion.
Comparing filing an insurance claim to having an abortion really minimizes everything that an abortion is.
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Old 09-10-2021, 10:57 AM
 
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Comparing filing an insurance claim to having an abortion really minimizes everything that an abortion is.
So does backing women in desperate corners. There are options and choice. Saying yes to sex isn’t saying yes to pregnancy or parenthood, even knowing sex can lead to pregnancy.
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