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Old 05-19-2021, 09:13 PM
 
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No, the delusion is yours that there is this great backlash among whites against the supposed double standards against them.

Most whites don't care, or agree with the paradigm. I know that possibility bothers you, but you're simply going to have to deal with it: Most whites don't care about your cause.

To be sure there are some whites who are upset with these things, but they are an increasingly small, albeit vocal, minority.
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And yes, your conclusion to your OP most certainly does suggest you
believe racism among whites is becoming more common. I mean, you explicitly said it!

But no, it is not becoming more common. Most whites just don't care about your cause.
The confidence-in-CEOs-leftist replied twice. I'm flattered. Greater attention on your part would avoid the necessity for this.

I never said anything about "most whites" again; there you go again, you mischaracterize that which others write and then speak as if you've refuted it. You provide yet more evidence of your weak reading comprehension.

Hypocritical, double-standard leftists have contributed to an increase in anger, resentment, outrage, and indignation among white Americans to the extent there are some of them who have now become racist and some have gone as far as to join white nationalist groups. Your camp's bashing of whites is directly to blame for this, and you leftist are too obtuse to see the backlash the policies and positions your camp advocates promote.

The confidence-in-CEOs-leftist said nothing about the institutional racism I pointed out, which targets whites and Asians (affirmative action). You ignore the fact that white nationalists have reported a spike in inquiries into their organizations over the past few years and they have openly thanked nonwhite criminals who have assaulted and in some cases murdered whites, because their foolish and of course, criminal behavior has increased their ranks.

The confidence-in-CEOs-leftist called it a "rant" because he/she (only two genders, I'm sure you know that) has no refutation. You resort instead to mischaracterize what others write.

Go back to writing about confidence in CEOs. And your reading comprehension is not impressive.
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Old 05-19-2021, 09:16 PM
 
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The bold is wrong. Many "rulers" had abolished slavery during their tenure only for it to return when succeeding rulers would come in. The first Emperor of the Xin Dynasty, Wang Mang ended slavery in 9 A.D. throughout the entire Empire, but after his assassination, it returned in 23 A.D.

Surprisingly the first country to permanently abolish slavery was not a "white majority nation". Hell, it wasn't even a western nation. It was Haiti. Haiti takes the title for being the first country to permanently abolished slavery and it did such soon after its independence in 1804 and that was only when it was officialized. One could make the argument that slavery "technically" ended in Haiti the day the slaves revolted in 1791. The "Europeans" you speak of wouldn't permanently abolish slavery throughout their area of influence until the mid-1800s, roughly 30-50 years after Haiti did.
The white Europeans who came up with the idea that slavery was morally wrong dedicated blood and treasure to end it permanently. Even Germany of all countries executed slave traders its naval forces happened to apprehend. Slavery continues in 2021 in much of Africa and in other parts of the world as it did for millenia.

Again, it was western civilization which progressed to the point that ideas such as the equality of all people under the law and the moral deviancy of keeping human beings as chattel to the extend it was to be extinguished everywhere.
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Old 05-19-2021, 09:18 PM
 
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I hate violence. I wish people wouldn't fight or do these things to each other. But I'm also a realist, and I know that's how this world is. There are too many people out there who are willing and able to do the most vicious physical acts against others, and oftentimes, without any reason. The attacks against Asians in many U.S. cities this year is proof, as is this event, as was the murder of Cannon Hinnant.

What I'm going to write may offend some posters, because I have seen there are plenty of liberals/leftists here who do believe things like critical race theory are good and that's it's all right to demand reparations for slavery and who think only white people can be racist because according to leftist ideology, racism doesn't exist without power and since America is majority whites, whites have power and only whites can be racist.

These ideas are all absolute garbage in my view. I despise critical race theory, I hate communism, I consider Karl Marx a plague upon humanity, I consider cultural Marxism to be trash, and I oppose the left.

I'm also aware that there are, for example, white and Asian liberals as well as black and Hispanic conservatives.

But I'm also aware that much of America - indeed, much of humanity - operates not through cold, calculating reason and thought and thorough, exhaustive, time-consuming research. None of us can stay awake 24 hours doing nothing but reading and studying and researching. We may become experts or specialists in certain subjects, but even that takes time.

Because people often operate by perception, they will not look at all the facts. And with the issue of identity politics and all the race-driven tension in the past few years, race has returned to the forefront.

Think about it. Black, Hispanic, Asian, and even white people can go on TV and talk about "privileged white men" (think about how Brett Kavanaugh was excoriated as such when he was falsely accused of sexual misconduct). Now imagine a white person going on TV and saying something about privileged men who are black or Jewish.

How long would it take for that person to be fired from his or her job?

I've been observing these events for years now.

I've seen all the double-standards, the hypocrisy, the blaming of white people for "privilege" to the extent they were forced to kneel, the guilt-tripping of whites for slavery (even though blacks owned slaves, even though hundreds of thousands of whites died to among other things ensure slavery would end, and even though it was white people - Europeans - who were the FIRST IN THE HISTORY OF HUMANITY to come up with the idea that slavery was wrong and that wealth and firepower were to be used to end it, and even though today there are thousands of African slaves in Africa enslaved by other Africans, but the American left couldn't care less)....

A black boy is shot by a cop, streets are marched on, intersections paralyzed...

A black man is shot by a cop, even though he was a rapist, and people protest for days...

A black man dies due to a fentanyl overdose and BLM and Antifa riot, killing people, injuring people for life, destroying hundreds of black, Hispanic, Korean, Chinese, Arab, etc. owned businesses - and white businesses too... underclass people loot at will and laugh while at it...

But when a white boy is kidnapped and stabbed and left to rot on the street like some dog, where's the outcry? Did Cash's life matter?

I've been watching the news, I've been on many websites, I've been reading editorials and articles and comments and opinions and my ironclad conclusion is that white people in America - many of them - are furious. Outraged. Mad as hell. Bitter.

And some of them have become racist when they weren't racist before. Being told they were guilty of being bad because they were white... why should they just kneel and bow their heads and take it like idiots?

Leftists, you did this. You created racists, you increased the ranks of white nationalist groups, you have increased interest in such groups with your incessant bashing of whites and your hypocritical double standards, and shame on you white leftists especially because you act as defenders of minorities but you only do so when convenient (why do you not protest black crimes against Asians?). And double shame on you because there are many honorable, ethical, hardworking, decent, intelligent, morally upright, and salt-of-the-Earth Americans who are black and Hispanic and Asian who don't agree with your ideology and who are now at greater risk of being victims of actual racist crimes because you've made white people angry.
Good point.
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Old 05-19-2021, 09:22 PM
 
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And yes, your conclusion to your OP most certainly does suggest you believe racism among whites is becoming more common. I mean, you explicitly said it!

But no, it is not becoming more common. Most whites just don't care about your cause.
Wrong again. It’s obviously more common. More whites are caring about it and speaking up. Many more. But there are also those whites that are weak minded and easily brainwashed. Spoon fed white guilt by media, academia, and government since birth.

If you’re white, over 30, and still a democrat, you’re one of those.
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Old 05-19-2021, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Hypocritical, double-standard leftists have contributed to an increase in anger, resentment, outrage, and indignation among white Americans to the extent there are some of them who have now become racist and some have gone as far as to join white nationalist groups. Your camp's bashing of whites is directly to blame for this, and you leftist are too obtuse to see the backlash the policies and positions your camp advocates promote.
"Some of them." Whoop-tee-doo. Why should liberals care about some small percentage of hot-headed whites going off and joining some white nationalist group?

More importantly, liberals (especially the white ones) hold these anti-racist beliefs because they think it is the right thing to do. Basically you're saying white liberals should be ashamed at doing what they believe is the right thing to do just because some small percentage of whites will get pissed off and join some white nationalist group.

That is an utterly ridiculous expectation.
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Old 05-19-2021, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Wrong again. It’s obviously more common. More whites are caring about it and speaking up. Many more.
No, it is not more common:
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Old 05-19-2021, 09:30 PM
 
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The white Europeans who came up with the idea that slavery was morally wrong dedicated blood and treasure to end it permanently. Even Germany of all countries executed slave traders its naval forces happened to apprehend. Slavery continues in 2021 in much of Africa and in other parts of the world as it did for millenia.

Again, it was western civilization which progressed to the point that ideas such as the equality of all people under the law and the moral deviancy of keeping human beings as chattel to the extend it was to be extinguished everywhere.
Europeans realized economic slavery was a better option. Hence why the ladder to middle class and above seems to get harder and harder to climb. Most Americans are just a hamster on a wheel, indentured servant.

Additionally Europeans also claimed to eliminate slavery but seem to support it via Capitalism. Don't want to pay workers? Just move production to Asia and pretend you don't see what is happening. Europe sacrificed jobs at home for cheap labor and profits via production abroad. Its a psuedo-slavery that allows one to pretend it is business but in reality it is exploitation of you own population and the population of another county. Literally talking NAFTA in the US as well.

Hence why so many Americans seem to lose their crap after age 40. You start to realize most of what you learned was absolute BS and anger seems to be to only outlet Americans understand. "Grumpy old men" is not a universal trait but it is an American trait.
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Old 05-19-2021, 09:34 PM
 
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No, it is not more common:
It is much more obvious and common for whites. Look at hate crime stats in USDOJ and FBISTATS. And thousands of videos don’t lie. Your one source is a weak one at that.
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Old 05-19-2021, 09:38 PM
 
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"Some of them." Whoop-tee-doo. Why should liberals care about some small percentage of hot-headed whites going off and joining some white nationalist group?

More importantly, liberals (especially the white ones) hold these anti-racist beliefs because they think it is the right thing to do. Basically you're saying white liberals should be ashamed at doing what they believe is the right thing to do just because some small percentage of whites will get pissed off and join some white nationalist group.

That is an utterly ridiculous expectation.
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No, it is not more common:
Two more posts again? Wow.

Because it only takes ONE person to do many wrong things. A lot of the black-on-black crime that you leftists don't care about includes one criminal killing many. If then a white racist goes off and assaults or kills nonwhites, because he's just one of "some," then what will you say? "Whoop-tee-doo?"

Yet more bizarre deviations. Who is speaking about "anti-racist beliefs?"

What a pathetic deviation, and they've all been absurd, confidence-in-CEOs-leftist.

Here again is proof of your bad reading comprehension; had you paid attention, which you don't, you would have noticed I alluded to the fact that many of the whites who have been angry, among them some angry enough to now be racist or even to join white nationalism, never cared about race in their past. They weren't raised to be bigots. They began to hate nonwhites after all the hateful garbage you leftists throw at them, with all your foolish babbling about "white supremacy" and "systemic racism."

It is YOU leftists who are the most racist. You defend and execute affirmative action (racism against whites and Asians). You ignore this point. Why?

You, leftists - you condescend and patronize minorities like blacks, defending the lowering of standards of admission in universities and specialized high schools and advance/talented/gifted programs for them. You claim voting ID laws are "racist" because blacks don't have ID when they do. You defend policies of entitlement which keep the poorest and most vulnerable of them (and Hispanics and whites in similar socioeconomic situations) utterly dependent on state benefits. You defend ideologies like critical race theory and thereby feed into the heads of minority people that all of the bad stuff in their lives is due to white people and they are likely to fail in life because of "white supremacy." You create and feed and magnify resentments and hatred, and many of these minority people lash out at whites and even at Asians, with some dying.

You tell minorities, but especially blacks, that everything wrong with them as a community is due to white people; they have no agency, no power to change, no freedom to choose.

This is the worst kind of racism there is: it comes wrapped in a veneer of humanitarianism and a disguise of caring and empathy, but it is a racism, a bigotry, a prejudice, of the lowest possible expectations.

Once again: if you are a defender of "anti-racist ideas," do you condemn the only existing institutional racism in 2021 America - affirmative action? Do you think it's unethical to penalize white and Asian students to "help" black and Hispanic students?
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Old 05-19-2021, 09:39 PM
 
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It is much more obvious and common for whites. Look at hate crime stats in USDOJ and FBISTATS. And thousands of videos don’t lie. Your one source is a weak one at that.
"Thousands."

And ... internet videos! *laughs hysterically* I can find thousands of anti-racist videos too!

There are well over 200 million whites in the US.

Yawn.
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