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These county's have underlying problems though that make them welfare counties. Many adjacent to the Seattle metro are "bedroom communities" that lack jobs and businesses due to the the states B&O taxes and negotiated tax breaks only making things favorable for "big business". I think Seattle has to accept "eating the bill there" because its where much of Seattle's metro area workers live and should be considered one and the same. Other counties in your list have serious issues, large amounts of illegal aliens and welfare recipients, and really nothing going for them in terms of good employment opportunities. One could argue that moving those counties to Idaho could provide them a more favorable tax structure to have more businesses and job opportunities that can compete, and would therefore be able to lift themselves up out of dependence on Seattle.
The counties I'm referencing are East of the mountains and if Idaho is willing to pay for them, they should move to Idaho. Same with the Oregon counties that want to move. Pack up and move to Idaho. Saying "there are underlying problems" doesn't excuse them because we are paying for them. I don't dispute that they may do better in Idaho, they may, which is why they should move to Idaho. No one is asking them to stay.
Otherwise known as the majority of voters win elections.
There are states where the majority of voters always vote conservative. Are you concerned about whether that's fair to the liberal voters in those states? Why or why not?
Yes and no. Under the normal circumstances people can't have the same opinions/outlooks, and for the most part the areas they live in are pretty much mixed in terms of voting. This can't be easily resolved.
But in this particular situation it's a clear cut of "who wants what," so why fight it?
The counties I'm referencing are East of the mountains and if Idaho is willing to pay for them, they should move to Idaho. Same with the Oregon counties that want to move. Pack up and move to Idaho. Saying "there are underlying problems" doesn't excuse them because we are paying for them. I don't dispute that they may do better in Idaho, they may, which is why they should move to Idaho. No one is asking them to stay.
So what are you saying exactly - it's "your land," but not "your people?"
So you want them to move out, and instead of them who do you think is going to move in?
Some "progressive-minded" farmers or what?
So what are you saying exactly - it's "your land," but not "your people?"
So you want them to move out, and instead of them who do you think is going to move in?
Some "progressive-minded" farmers or what?
I'm not going to stop you from making the argument that the land should go with them. In fact, keep making that argument and I'll support it. It could come in handy for Western Washington and Western Oregon later.
cant blame them from wanting to get out of the choke hold the Portland liberal hellhole has them in.
That's funny!
I know twice as many Idahoans who moved to Portland as Portlanders who moved to Idaho.
Anyone who wanted to go higher in their career than they could reach in Boise moved to Portland. Once there, they didn't want to come back.
That includes 2 of my own kids.
Back when I was a kid who grew up here in the 50s and 60s, the smart ambitious kids in my generation didn't stay here. They either moved to Portland or to L.A. Nowadays, it's only Portland.
Idaho is still losing more young natives than kids who stay here.
The fact is Idaho is not conservative paradise, and Oregon is not liberal hell.
That's only the two swabs of BS that make the middle of a BS sandwich.
You would think that democrats would be all excited about this and try to make it happen. They can unload all those pesky reds and have the utopian they have always wanted.
No, no, no... you're not taking one thing into consideration: "socialism" requires a serf class (tax slaves, if you will) in order to finance the welfare state. The lowest rung of the social ladder (the "rabble") will not work or sustain itself and will take up pitchforks and torches if not provided for. The royal class knows this. Thus, the royal class, in order to placate the "rabble," must have a sufficient serf class to secure the authoritarian collective state through taxation and other punitive measures. Those serfs are your "red counties." Besides, an authoritarian state will never willingly give real estate up for any reason, other than having it take from them via military action.
No, no, no... you're not taking one thing into consideration: "socialism" requires a serf class (tax slaves, if you will) in order to finance the welfare state. The lowest rung of the social ladder (the "rabble") will not work or sustain itself and will take up pitchforks and torches if not provided for. The royal class knows this. Thus, the royal class, in order to placate the "rabble," must have a sufficient serf class to secure the authoritarian collective state through taxation and other punitive measures. Those serfs are your "red counties." Besides, an authoritarian state will never willingly give real estate up for any reason, other than having it take from them via military action.
Are you really insinuating that OR and WA collect more in taxes from the residents of the poor red counties than they do from the residents of the metro areas in blue counties?
Idaho has a MUCH smaller state tax base and rate then oregon. These counties would get shocking surprises on what get funded for them that they never realized.LOL. And they would freak out over the 6% sales taxes.
No way Idaho will agree to take these counties and their expenses.
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