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Old 05-21-2021, 09:44 AM
 
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I'm sure $3.7 billion of US taxpayers money also comes in handy for that.
It is way more than that. US budgets pull from many pots and its hard to add up the total. For instance our defense budget does not include the parts of the Energy Budget that controls the Nuclear program.

I bet the number is double that after you find all the strings of money going there. It is expensive to have these conflicts ongoing.
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Old 05-21-2021, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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well, America gives so much $$$ to so many different countries. I don't like it, but let's face it, it is American politics for you and blaming Israel is not the answer.
If you look in comparison the only countries that receive the same scale of military aid are Afghanistan, Jordan, and Egypt.

The Afghan government is our puppet state, once we leave that money will dry.

Egypt and Jordan are given money as a bribery to protect Israel.

And Israel has a higher GDP per capita than all those countries COMBINED.
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Old 05-21-2021, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Do you find it hypocritical to brag about Israel dominating Palestinians with American weapons, while complaining about Iran arming the Palestinians?

Who would win if America was giving the Palestinians billions a year in military aid? Would you be laughing then?



We don't give Palestine money and aid because they've admitted they'll just use it to buy weapons to "destroy Israel." Israel is our ally so why wouldn't we help them? Hamas started it this time. And what about Palestine? Launching rockets from schools and hospitals is OK? And maybe they should get an iron dome then. Imagine how much worse the damage would be if Israel didn't have that.



Also, you really need to learn the difference between how these countries view peace.


Israel - You want peace? Please leave us be and also acknowledge that we have the right to exist and we will call a truce. We can both exist in this world there's no reason why we can't.



Palestine - You want peace? Fine, after Israel is wiped off the map, you can have all the peace you want!


Get it now?
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Old 05-21-2021, 09:54 AM
 
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We don't give Palestine money and aid because they've admitted they'll just use it to buy weapons to "destroy Israel." Israel is our ally so why wouldn't we help them? Hamas started it this time. And what about Palestine? Launching rockets from schools and hospitals is OK? And maybe they should get an iron dome then. Imagine how much worse the damage would be if Israel didn't have that.

Also, you really need to learn the difference between how these countries view peace.

Israel - You want peace? Please leave us be and also acknowledge that we have the right to exist and we will call a truce. We can both exist in this world there's no reason why we can't.

Palestine - You want peace? Fine, after Israel is wiped off the map, you can have all the peace you want!

Get it now?
It’s even worse than you say. It’s true that we didn’t give Palestinians money -under Trump - because Hamas was just using it to try to destroy Israel, BUT....Biden has restored the aid. At the same time, he has the antisemitic leftists like Omar and Tlaib pressuring him to cut off Israel. So far he’s stood back against the blatant pro-Muslim, anti-Jew squad, but he’s very weak and time will tell.
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Old 05-21-2021, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Connecticut
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It’s even worse than you say. It’s true that we didn’t give Palestinians money -under Trump - because Hamas was just using it to try to destroy Israel, BUT....Biden has restored the aid. At the same time, he has the antisemitic leftists like Omar and Tlaib pressuring him to cut off Israel. So far he’s stood back against the blatant pro-Muslim, anti-Jew squad, but he’s very weak and time will tell.



Very solid points. Omar and Tlaib are mentally unhinged and they won't let up on this. Even worse, AOC backs them and they want to block the US from providing Israel aid and weapons. Joe is so weak and he's scared of "Da Squad" so this isn't good. I'm sure Israel and many countries in the ME miss Trump, especially since he helped broker so many peace deals.
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Old 05-21-2021, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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We don't give Palestine money and aid because they've admitted they'll just use it to buy weapons to "destroy Israel." Israel is our ally so why wouldn't we help them? Hamas started it this time. And what about Palestine? Launching rockets from schools and hospitals is OK? And maybe they should get an iron dome then. Imagine how much worse the damage would be if Israel didn't have that.



Also, you really need to learn the difference between how these countries view peace.


Israel - You want peace? Please leave us be and also acknowledge that we have the right to exist and we will call a truce. We can both exist in this world there's no reason why we can't.



Palestine - You want peace? Fine, after Israel is wiped off the map, you can have all the peace you want!


Get it now?
Do you know what the settlements are? Israel does not want peace.
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Old 05-21-2021, 10:05 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Do you know what the settlements are? Israel does not want peace.
They were willing to give up all the settlements in exchange for peace. The offer was rejected.

They do want peace, while the Palestinians want Israel. All of it.
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Old 05-21-2021, 10:08 AM
 
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They were willing to give up all the settlements in exchange for peace. The offer was rejected.

They do want peace, while the Palestinians want Israel. All of it.
They want Hamas to disarm.

What would the Israelis do if they were asked to disarm?

And no, they want all of 'Israel' for the Jews, it is in their party charter.
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Old 05-21-2021, 10:11 AM
 
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They want Hamas to disarm.

What would the Israelis do if they were asked to disarm?

And no, they want all of 'Israel' for the Jews, it is in their party charter.

Because Hamas wants to change how our world map looks! They're a TERRORIST ORGANIZATION!!! Israel doesn't want that! And please, that is quite the reach. If Israel were to disarm themselves then so many other countries in the ME would come for them. How hard is it to comprehend that Israel has many enemies, solely because their enemies feel that Jews shouldn't exist and have ANY land?! Are you really that dense?
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Old 05-21-2021, 10:13 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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They want Hamas to disarm.

What would the Israelis do if they were asked to disarm?

And no, they want all of 'Israel' for the Jews, it is in their party charter.
Hamas is a recognized terrorist organization. Everyone should want them to disarm.

But that is not why they didn't sign the peace agreement. They didn't sign because the agreement didn't include the destruction of Israel...er...I mean....the right of return.
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