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Old 05-25-2021, 03:55 PM
 
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Interesting……the Spanish flu, was in reality the Chinese flu, the ChiComs and social media will not like this

1918 Flu Pandemic That Killed 50 Million Originated in China, Historians Say

Historian Mark Humphries of Canada's Memorial University of Newfoundland says that newly unearthed records confirm that one of the side stories of the war—the mobilization of 96,000 Chinese laborers to work behind the British and French lines on World War I's Western Front—may have been the source of the pandemic.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/a...science-health
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Old 05-25-2021, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Sector 001
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So the latest Belling mentioned on his show while I was out bike riding is that according to Tucker, there are reports that Thailand told Fauci in November 2019 that strange things were coming out of the lab in Wuhan. I'm waiting for confirmation of this, but it's looking like they may have been hiding the origins of the virus. If they were, I will never trust any public officials ever again. It will be 9/11 part 2.

https://www.biospace.com/article/new...november-2019/

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tuck...-covid-origins

There were anecdotal stories of this back last spring but they were largely ignored. Control the media, control the narrative. "There's only one level 4 lab in all of China... in Wuhan." (There actually appears to be 2 of them from my research.... Harbin, Heilongjiang and Wuhan, Hubei)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosafety_level

Anyways, I guess that's what they get for using "chinese labor" to do things like build railroads (something that is little mentioned by modern historians) back in the 1800's and early 1900's. I'll admit I didn't know this until recently.


https://www.theguardian.com/artandde...ental-railroad
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Old 05-25-2021, 08:57 PM
 
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A lot of plagues seemed to have spread east to west. We know the Black Plague did. I believe Justinians Plague as well.
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Old 05-25-2021, 09:26 PM
 
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Interesting……the Spanish flu, was in reality the Chinese flu, the ChiComs and social media will not like this

1918 Flu Pandemic That Killed 50 Million Originated in China, Historians Say

Historian Mark Humphries of Canada's Memorial University of Newfoundland says that newly unearthed records confirm that one of the side stories of the war—the mobilization of 96,000 Chinese laborers to work behind the British and French lines on World War I's Western Front—may have been the source of the pandemic.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/a...science-health
Many historians also think it started in Kansas. The first reported cases in the World were in Ft. Riley KS. Does that make it better?

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-...uenza-epidemic

Now let's be realistic for a second, would you really take Kansas' side over China's? The Chinese gave us gunpowder man! What did Kansas ever give us besides a lot of overweight underachievers?
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Old 05-25-2021, 10:01 PM
 
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Interesting……the Spanish flu, was in reality the Chinese flu, the ChiComs and social media will not like this

1918 Flu Pandemic That Killed 50 Million Originated in China, Historians Say

Historian Mark Humphries of Canada's Memorial University of Newfoundland says that newly unearthed records confirm that one of the side stories of the war—the mobilization of 96,000 Chinese laborers to work behind the British and French lines on World War I's Western Front—may have been the source of the pandemic.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/a...science-health
The Spanish flu originated in Kansas and was spread throughout the world by way of the u.s. troops traveling.

Where do people come up with this stuff --- ?
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Old 05-25-2021, 10:05 PM
 
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Many lethal pandemics have originated in Asia. It's just a fact of geography.
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Old 05-25-2021, 10:15 PM
 
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The Spanish flu originated in Kansas and was spread throughout the world by way of the u.s. troops traveling.

Where do people come up with this stuff --- ?
nope the first cases were in china in 1917


the 1918 pandemic started in Asia... : Shanxi, China to be exact in 1917



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a respiratory illness that struck northern China in November 1917 was identified a year later by Chinese health officials as identical to the Spanish flu.

The Spanish flu reached its height in autumn 1918 but raged until 1920, initially gaining its nickname from wartime censorship rules that allowed for reporting on the disease's ravages in neutral Spain.

Physicians began debating the origin of the pandemic almost as soon as it appeared, with historians soon joining them.
France's wartime trenches, ridden with filth, disease, and death, were originally seen as the flu's breeding ground. The flu's tendency to strike young adults was explained as the disease targeting itself to young soldiers in trenches.

The Chinese laborers arrived in southern England by January 1918 and were sent to France, where the Chinese Hospital at Noyelles-sur-Mer recorded hundreds of their deaths from respiratory illness.
Historians, scientists, and medical professionals have suggested that the Spanish influenza mutated and became most deadly in spring 1918, spreading from Europe to ports as far apart as Boston and Freetown, Sierra Leone.
To maintain morale, wartime censors minimized early reports of illness and mortality in Germany, the United Kingdom, France, and the United States. Papers were free to report the epidemic's effects in neutral Spain These stories created a false impression of Spain as especially hard hit, giving rise to the pandemic's nickname, "Spanish flu".
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Old 05-25-2021, 10:29 PM
 
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nope the first cases were in china in 1917


the 1918 pandemic started in Asia... : Shanxi, China to be exact in 1917





To maintain morale, wartime censors minimized early reports of illness and mortality in Germany, the United Kingdom, France, and the United States. Papers were free to report the epidemic's effects in neutral Spain These stories created a false impression of Spain as especially hard hit, giving rise to the pandemic's nickname, "Spanish flu".
In 2009 they were still speculating as to its orgins and I suspect in 2021 they still are ---- as well as fueling the political climate, with whatever they have to throw it ---

Origins of the Spanish Influenza pandemic (1918–1920) and its relation to the First World War

"The 1889–1890 pandemic may have originated, among others, in the following countries: China (following the 1888 flooding); Athabasca in Canada (May 1889); Greenland (summer of 1889), Tomsk in Siberia or Bukhara in Uzbekistan (October 1889). We know with certainty that the first cases appeared in St. Petersburg (Russia) on 27th October 1889, and expanded rapidly via railway to whole Europe. In Paris, the first cases were recorded on 17th November; in Berlin and Vienna on 30th November; in London around middle of December, and in southern European countries, from Italy to Portugal towards the end of December." (emphasis is mine)


The U.S. Military and the Influenza Pandemic of 1918–1919 (2010)

"Influenza sailed with American troops across the Atlantic and when it exploded in late August and September in Europe and the United States, medical officers found themselves on the front lines of an epidemic worse than any of them had ever seen or imagined. Many were among the most knowledgeable and skilled physicians in the country and had just recently entered military service. They did their best to save those stricken by influenza, but could do little more than provide palliative care of warmth, rest, and a gentle diet, and hope that their patients did not develop pneumonia."
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Old 05-25-2021, 10:49 PM
 
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Interesting……the Spanish flu, was in reality the Chinese flu, the ChiComs and social media will not like this

1918 Flu Pandemic That Killed 50 Million Originated in China, Historians Say

Historian Mark Humphries of Canada's Memorial University of Newfoundland says that newly unearthed records confirm that one of the side stories of the war—the mobilization of 96,000 Chinese laborers to work behind the British and French lines on World War I's Western Front—may have been the source of the pandemic.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/a...science-health
You thread title is wrong.... "may have been the source of the pandemic." Not was the source.
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Old 05-25-2021, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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the ChiComs and social media will not like this
The "ChiComs" might not care, because in 1918 China was under the rule of the arch enemies of the "ChiComs". Of course if your criticism is against a certain race, not a country, then that's a whole different matter.
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