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Old 05-24-2021, 05:43 PM
 
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Fact checkers from politifact, CNN, Vox and others said that it was was wild conspiracy theory to say Covid came from a lab. Some linked the thought to xenophobia, showing that CNN doesn't care for scientific discussion as they wish to silence opposition. CNN trashed a man for pushing forward the theory calling into question his credentials, political connections, and sanity.

Now we have more and more evidence it did leak from a lab. More and more top people including Fauci and CNN's Gupta have stated it is a credible theory.

Vox has stealth edited some of their Fact checking in a dishonest matter so readers don't know what was first written. Politifact has at least told its readers they have removed their "pants on fire" ratings for the lab leak theory, while CNN has refused to apologize to the man they slandered.

Shouldn't Fact checkers wait more until we know before slandering?

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/fact-c...-y3Szn6fIStdT4

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/v...b-origin-covid
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Old 05-24-2021, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Embarrassing, WA
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These "fact check" are just another arm of the leftist media, talking heads available to the highest bidder.
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Old 05-24-2021, 05:50 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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Fact checkers from politifact, CNN, Vox and others said that it was was wild conspiracy theory to say Covid came from a lab. Some linked the thought to xenophobia, showing that CNN doesn't care for scientific discussion as they wish to silence opposition. CNN trashed a man for pushing forward the theory calling into question his credentials, political connections, and sanity.

Now we have more and more evidence it did leak from a lab. More and more top people including Fauci and CNN's Gupta have stated it is a credible theory.

Vox has stealth edited some of their Fact checking in a dishonest matter so readers don't know what was first written. Politifact has at least told its readers they have removed their "pants on fire" ratings for the lab leak theory, while CNN has refused to apologize to the man they slandered.

Shouldn't Fact checkers wait more until we know before slandering?

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/fact-c...-y3Szn6fIStdT4

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/v...b-origin-covid
Facts don't matter to CNN and its ilk.
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Old 05-24-2021, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Sector 001
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There's all sorts of fuzzy math and sensationalized news stories coming from right wing publications as well, such as that gateway one. Both sides are guilty. What the mainstream media is more guilty of than anything is insulting our intelligence. They don't seem to think we can handle facts and statistics, but rather want to give people vague assurances, and peddle narratives, trying to tell people what to think, rather than just providing the facts, which only makes people that much more suspicious.
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Old 05-24-2021, 06:06 PM
 
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Fact checkers from politifact, CNN, Vox and others said that it was was wild conspiracy theory to say Covid came from a lab. Some linked the thought to xenophobia, showing that CNN doesn't care for scientific discussion as they wish to silence opposition. CNN trashed a man for pushing forward the theory calling into question his credentials, political connections, and sanity.

Now we have more and more evidence it did leak from a lab. More and more top people including Fauci and CNN's Gupta have stated it is a credible theory.

Vox has stealth edited some of their Fact checking in a dishonest matter so readers don't know what was first written. Politifact has at least told its readers they have removed their "pants on fire" ratings for the lab leak theory, while CNN has refused to apologize to the man they slandered.

Shouldn't Fact checkers wait more until we know before slandering?

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/fact-c...-y3Szn6fIStdT4

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/v...b-origin-covid
Who waits for anything anymore? The entire country is impatient and not REALLY interested in truth, just what information supports their pre-made conclusion.

In fact I bet if a news organizations used the "Wait until the facts come in" approach, they would be out of business in 6 months. People want instant "I told you so" not truth.
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Old 05-24-2021, 06:08 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Should Fact Checkers Wait Until They Know the Facts Before Fact Checking?


It would help. Then at least they would know when they are being fed bullshiite by the sources you mentioned (politifact, CNN, Vox and others).

But if the self-appointed "fact-checkers" are trying to spread bullshiite instead of the truth, that's another matter. Then they might not be interested in the facts.
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Old 05-24-2021, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Who waits for anything anymore? The entire country is impatient and not REALLY interested in truth, just what information supports their pre-made conclusion.

In fact I bet if a news organizations used the "Wait until the facts come in" approach, they would be out of business in 6 months. People want instant "I told you so" not truth.
Yep, it is all about first to report and break a story, not who gets it right. It has been that way since at least 2009 when TMZ went legit by reporting that Michael Jackson died. I at the time didn't take it seriously since TMZ was known for shotty reporting of celebrities or being just a celebrity dirt rag.
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Old 05-24-2021, 06:16 PM
 
Location: South of Heaven
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The purpose of "fact checkers" isn't to check facts it's to make sure the left's narrative gets the final word even on stories that are not on venues they have control over. Heck they even fact check the Babylon Bee sometimes to make sure they get their little "well ackshually" in even when they are being parodied.
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Old 05-24-2021, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Various
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These sites are just another arm of leftism. They exist for dullards to outsource what little critical reasoning capacity they have.
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Old 05-24-2021, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Maine
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There's all sorts of fuzzy math and sensationalized news stories coming from right wing publications as well, such as that gateway one. Both sides are guilty. What the mainstream media is more guilty of than anything is insulting our intelligence. They don't seem to think we can handle facts and statistics, but rather want to give people vague assurances, and peddle narratives, trying to tell people what to think, rather than just providing the facts, which only makes people that much more suspicious.
Nailed it. This is the core issue that is frankly primarily responsible for tearing this country apart. There is no such thing as news outlets anymore. None of them report “just the facts” as they were always supposed to do. None of them can avoid putting their personal spin on whatever the facts actually are. Anyone actually remember when the news was the news? When it was unbiased and credible? It would be great if all of these outlets went back to reporting the FACTS without injecting their personal feelings into everything.

CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC all slant their stories to the left.
FOX, OAN, and others all slant their stories to the right.
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