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Old 05-25-2021, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Avignon, France
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Old 05-25-2021, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Sector 001
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So the latest Belling mentioned on his show while I was out bike riding is that according to Tucker, there are reports that Thailand told Fauci in November 2019 that strange things were coming out of the lab in Wuhan. If true, it means they lied about their knowledge of the virus the entire time. I hope it's true, because it will basically make people never trust experts ever again.

https://www.biospace.com/article/new...november-2019/

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tuck...-covid-origins
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Old 05-25-2021, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida, Support our police
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So the latest Belling mentioned on his show while I was out bike riding is that according to Tucker, there are reports that Thailand told Fauci in November 2019 that strange things were coming out of the lab in Wuhan. If true, it means they lied about their knowledge of the virus the entire time. I hope it's true, because it will basically make people never trust experts ever again.

https://www.biospace.com/article/new...november-2019/

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tuck...-covid-origins
Fauci lied and Americans died! Lock his ass up!
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Old 05-25-2021, 03:57 PM
 
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Fauci lied and Americans died! Lock his ass up!
Also, this idea that China had no cases... it's clearly fabricated. Anyone dumb enough to think this country of over 1 billion managed to limit the spread to 100,000 total cases, I have a bridge to sell you... guarantee you they've had tens of millions of cases.
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Old 05-25-2021, 04:09 PM
 
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they'll call this 'speaking truth to power'

bunch of traitors..
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Old 05-25-2021, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida, Support our police
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/break...ign=proamerica The Xiden administration tried to bury the story. The Xiden administration was trying to help the Chinese to get away with what they did. The Xiden administration is corrupt!
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Old 05-25-2021, 08:51 PM
 
Location: SoFlo
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That theory of the wet markets origin has been dead for over a year, and the media hasn't promulgated the theory since. The Wuhan lab was the one to say that the wet markets theory was wrong very early on in the investigation.

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There were no employees sick with the Covid virus. If you look at the report, they say common seasonal symptoms and Covid. They tried to insinuate Covid from observing several workers with common cold or flu symptoms. The US has also changed the informant in the report from a diplomat to an US intelligence officer to foreign intelligence. That means the first two wouldn't vouch for the information so they used unnamed foreign intelligence as they did with Iraq WMD and Trump's Steele dossier. They've also changed their story multiple times from being merely displaying symptoms to visiting a hospital to being hospitalized at an unnamed hospital. It all comes from the same report that's been discredited.

US State Department covid dossier

This particular issue was already addressed last year. Employees at the lab received antibody tests, which are good for at least six months, and were cleared of having been sick.

It's a big uphill battle to claim genetic manipulation of a coronavirus sample led to a copy of SARS-COVID-19 in a little over a year since the level 4 lab was opened. There are over 30,000 genes in the virus' genome sequence. One would have to get the changes right in nearly 2,000 genes and justify all those changes in a research environment.

It's far more likely that it was the result of recombinant DNA from the virus infecting a different animal species first which the director of the US CDC implied the other day.

It was rejected by the CIA. There was no evidence in the Trump report, mainly insinuations from suspicions; aka a series of conspiracy theories. The dumbest one had to be the bioweapon claim put forth by Trump.

5 Eyes intelligence network, including CIA and MI5, dispute Trump's theory
We are dealing in the land of 'likely' and 'unlikely'. There isn't any hard evidence that it came directly from an animal, came from the wet market, came from a lab leak, came from a bioweapon. At this point, it could be just as the CCP said, it could have came into China from a frozen food shipment from Norway. Why is it 'far more likely that it was the result of recombinant DNA'? Why is a bioweapon 'dumb'? I am not saying the lab leak or the bioweapon are true, I am saying we have no evidence of anything. And the CCP hasn't been at all transparent in this. And all of the articles you link are chock full of unnamed sources.

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Old 05-25-2021, 10:34 PM
 
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They never found it for SARS either. For the most part, they don't directly infect humans except for the case of the miners who were collecting bat samples. They're merely trying to find a closer match than the lab sample.
They did find it for SARS and MERS. In the case for SARS, bats near a plant infected pigs.
In the case of MERS, bats infect camels which infect humans.

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Ebola goes directly to humans from fruit bats.
In most cases Ebola goes from bats to bushmeat and then to humans. The first suspects of carriers of Ebola were chimpanzees, as they were often the index case the villagers ate, before becoming sick. But it was noted Ebola was killing the chimpanzees too, so they were not a natural reservoir. Bats later were found to be that.

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What they would've done would've been to use a pangolin, civet cat, or other intermediate host animal in a lab environment. Both China and the anti-China crowd have dropped this avenue of suspicion as I've seen it mentioned at the beginning of the crisis.
They weren't using any animals. They were recombining SARS-COV-1 virus with other viruses, and testing its infectivity in human cells. Then they'd select the batches that were more infectious, copy their RNA, and repeat this process over many times, many years.

It should be noted that SARS-COV-1 and SARS-COV-2 are 80% similar.

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Under these circumstances, the probabilities are very low for a lab manipulation to reach the result. One has to essentially have a copy of the virus one intends to reverse-engineer in a short period of time.
Why? What result? What is so special you think it's hard to reach?

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China culled the exotic animals after the outbreak. There was a better possibility to find a match back then.
None of the exotic animals would have caused this.

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There are also going to be problems with the current theories in that the virus was already circulating in Europe before an outbreak was identified in China.
I think this is noise. People need to study carefully how they came to those conclusions. Kind of like that Tanzanian dictator who fired his lab director because he tested a banana + for Sars-Cov-2.

Certainly, Sars-Cov-2 was probably spreading human-human in November. Wuhan is a large city - the Chicago of China - and by December this virus was certainly spreading human-human in W. Europe and USA, and probably some other countries.
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Old 05-26-2021, 06:52 AM
 
Location: PRC
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Hear me out for a moment. I think this whole thing is much bigger than where the COVID pandemic started. It does not matter who started it, they are all in it together for a shared agenda

We have already recognized that the political and royal elite, the rich guys were ALL mates of Epstein. Mates of Epstein are ALL into the kinds of things he was into. As we have seen, it was underage boys and girls. I dont think anyone moving in the top circles is immune from the parties and good times which they all enjoyed and probably still enjoy. No-one will get prosecuted for anything in the US or the UK, or Australia, or Japan, or China or anywhere else. The FBI will sit on their Epstein investigation and it will be forgotten.

This means any visiting dignitory is going to be 'entertained' according to his or her warped set of preferences and so they ALL have something to hide and they are all in it together, regardless of political persuation, religion, Communist or whatever.

I really dont think there is ANY chance that the rich and famous will get jail time for anything because they are all one big corrupted gang of kiddy fiddlers. And..of course with this comes the manipulation and the corruption and the lies and the stories which have to be told to weasel their way out of being blamed for anything.

Is it surprising that the WHO dont want to rat on any of the others or that the top media moguls dont want to say bad things about anyone or the top government officials dont want to expose the real truth? If you know that everyone is as corrupt as you are, then you have no fear they will rat on you because they fear you will rat on them and then whole house of cards comes crashing down. So, nothing changes until we change it.

It pays to have a baddie. China, Russia, Iran, all can be blamed for stuff happening. It is an illusion as we all know, but we are angry about our weakness to change the system.
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