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Old 05-28-2021, 02:16 PM
 
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Honestly I hope they keep deescalating, they got a huge segment of the population scared crazy over this mess.

What they need to do is come clean on how dangerous this is for teens and children. It is not worth the blood clots and heart inflammation. - link1 , link2 , link3 , link4


Israel considers giving kids one dose(funny how doctors who care like Noorchasm were saying this months ago)...I bet Fauci isnt so clever and he absolutely KNOWS the vaccine is the cause, what a joke - link

UK eliminated 96% of their covid death with one shot - link
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Old 05-28-2021, 03:25 PM
 
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Honestly I hope they keep deescalating, they got a huge segment of the population scared crazy over this mess.

What they need to do is come clean on how dangerous this is for teens and children. It is not worth the blood clots and heart inflammation. - link1 , link2 , link3 , link4


Israel considers giving kids one dose(funny how doctors who care like Noorchasm were saying this months ago)...I bet Fauci isnt so clever and he absolutely KNOWS the vaccine is the cause, what a joke - link

UK eliminated 96% of their covid death with one shot - link
yeah it's totally unnecessary for kids, teenagers, young adults, middle-aged adults, even relatively healthy elderly people tend get mild COVID cases. Our relatives in Germany, France and other parts of Europe say they're shooting down some of the stupid politicians even offering this up for kids-- the reg agencies actually have some integrity there, and they say it's outrageous to push the vaccines on children esp. when still so many seniors thinking about getting their shots. And part of the reason the USA is still less than half of Americans fully vaccinated is, a lot of Americans had bad reactions to their first shots and are unwilling to do the second. Given the risk is so low for kids and young adults, it's medical malpractice to be even suggesting the vaccines for them. And it's not even clear how well the vaccines last. In ex. Seychelles, one of most vaccinated countries in the world, they're still getting COVID outbreaks.
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Old 05-28-2021, 07:19 PM
 
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https://www.reuters.com/world/middle...ss-2021-05-23/

"Israel will end local COVID-19 restrictions following a successful vaccine rollout that has nearly stamped out new infections, the country's Health Ministry said on Sunday.

With the majority of the population having received the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, and about 92% of those 50 and older inoculated or recovered, Israel has been gradually reopening its economy after three lockdowns."
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Old 05-28-2021, 07:40 PM
 
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Kids and vaccination:
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...-covid/618650/
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Old 05-28-2021, 08:22 PM
 
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I know quite a few teens who recently got covid. It made a cold seem severe in comparison.
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Old 05-28-2021, 11:16 PM
 
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I know quite a few teens who recently got covid. It made a cold seem severe in comparison.
You do not know every teen in the country who has been infected though, and there are those for whom it did not make
"a cold seem severe in comparison".

You also have no idea who the teens you know may have infected or how many of those did not do well or passed it on to someone else who did not do well.
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Old 05-29-2021, 01:29 AM
 
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You do not know every teen in the country who has been infected though, and there are those for whom it did not make
"a cold seem severe in comparison".

You also have no idea who the teens you know may have infected or how many of those did not do well or passed it on to someone else who did not do well.
So whats the number? How many kids would need to die or get hospitalized for heart inflammation / blood clots for this to stop? - link1 , link2 , link3, link4, link5, link6

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18 cases in Connecticut that required hospitalization. That translates into about 1700 cases nationally
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How serious is the teen/young adult #Covid vaccine myocarditis issue? A single health system in the Northeast has told its physicians that it has had 9 cases, all in people under 30. Four are in people under 21. The system has vaccinated ~50,000 people under 25.
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Old 05-29-2021, 07:49 AM
 
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So whats the number? How many kids would need to die or get hospitalized for heart inflammation / blood clots for this to stop? - link1 , link2 , link3, link4, link5, link6
I've been asking that question. What is the number of severe adverse events or deaths where they stop aggressively recommending them for kids? Or halt them due to safety?

If we had fewer than 300 Covid deaths for kids below 17, how many vaccine deaths and injuries would be considered an acceptable risk?
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Old 05-29-2021, 08:37 AM
 
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The NYT has great articles on covid, it might be part of the reason why only 35-40% of New Yorkers had the vaccination, we might be better informed than other areas of the country (many get the NYT delivered their homes). As a matter of fact, I mailed an article the NYT had in December 2020 to several people outside of NY explaining why the vaccinated still should wear masks to stop the spread.

Regarding the covid case count, Dr. Mercola wrote a book on covid, I was reading about it and looking at the reviews on Amazon, and Mercola states the method of counting covid cases changed to show less cases under the Biden administration.

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Old 05-29-2021, 12:45 PM
 
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The NYT has great articles on covid, it might be part of the reason why only 35-40% of New Yorkers had the vaccination, we might be better informed than other areas of the country (many get the NYT delivered their homes). As a matter of fact, I mailed an article the NYT had in December 2020 to several people outside of NY explaining why the vaccinated still should wear masks to stop the spread.

Regarding the covid case count, Dr. Mercola wrote a book on covid, I was reading about it and looking at the reviews on Amazon, and Mercola states the method of counting covid cases changed to show less cases under the Biden administration.
This is big part of the problem, there's so much massaging of the numbers and general corruption with this that it's hard to trust any data on COVID19, and even the CDC, FDA and other officials have repeatedly had to step back and admit they had no idea what they were doing on many cases. Even Dr. Rochelle Walensky at the CDC got caught admitting that lots of the 500,000 deaths the US reported for COVID19 as of around April 2021, were people dying with COVID, not because of it.
https://news.yahoo.com/cdc-director-...193358239.html
Figures lie and liars figure, like my stats prof once said, and this is double true for COVID19. It just depends on what official story the politicians, public health agencies and Big Pharma want to tell to make the most money. So they even change their own stats frequently to tell whatever story they want, and that's true of the vaccines too. The vaccine clinical trials basically excluded the sick and unhealthy people who are the most affected by COVID19 and focussed on healthy people, even though healthy people rarely ever die of COVID19.

The CDC itself was forced to admit, despite a lot of the previous scaremongering about the coronavirus that 94 percent of US COVID deaths in 2020 were of Americans who were already severely ill from something else, and usually had 2 or more other severe pre-existing conditions like major heart disease or advance diabetes.
https://www.ksl.com/article/50012971...hat-that-means

Those deaths are still tragic, not trying to say otherwise but it shows there was a lot of statistical manipulation by the CDC, FDA, US government, and especially public health departments and the media trying to claim that scary high number of people dying from COVID, and use that fearmongering to push their agenda, including rushed-out experimental vaccines without anything in way of data on long term effects, for the sake of profit for Pfizer, Moderna and other Big Pharma companies who bribe and buy off our politicians and media. Just a quick glance at the actual data (that the CDC had to release when they got called out for its lies and manipulations) it wasn't COVID that they died from-- it was the severe illness and usually, multiple illnesses they already had. Only 6% of US COVID deaths in 2020 were among people who had no underlying other condition, and for young people especially, unless they already had a severe pre-existing condition, almost nobody in America died from COVID. Which means COVID19 is actually less dangerous than the flu! And whether you love him or hate him, the fact of the matter is, Donald Trump was right when he said exactly this. We're independents and didn't agree with everything Trump said, but he was totally right saying COVID19 was less dangerous than the flu, certainly for healthy people and young people. The media jumped all over Trump for saying this in 2020, citing the figures from the CDC and FDA about the claimed high death rate from COVID and how dangerous it was for anyone who got it. When in fact, the CDC, FDA and mainstream media in America were fudging their numbers all along, probably with political motivations partly to bring down Trump, and they were were forced to admit it with the newer numbers in 2021. And even now they're still lying and changing their story depending on whatever agenda they have. How are Americans supposed to trust the CDC or any other big US institution for that matter? They're not making their reports based on science, they're making it based on whatever political agenda they want to push.
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