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View Poll Results: Should CRT be taught in our schools?
Yes 91 16.34%
No 447 80.25%
Other 19 3.41%
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Old 06-17-2021, 02:00 PM
 
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Let's see if we can crack that thick wall you've built around yourself,

What about the new California law for Math curriculum in the state where getting the correct answer will no longer be important, and Calculus will be eliminated from high school?
LOL!

Well that will certainly help them in the future. In 1984, people had to be tortured to say that 2+2 = 5, but with the way they want to 'teach' children now, they will bend more easily.
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Old 06-17-2021, 02:08 PM
 
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Let's have a look at what Oregon is doing along with any state that adopts it....

https://equitablemath.org/wp-content.../1_STRIDE1.pdf

This is absolutely criminal to do this to black kids, CRIMINAL

they literally prominently use the word "Praxis", a 100% undisputable Communist/Marxist ideological action

Note on equitablemath.org:
"We also wish to thank the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation for their generous financial support of this project."

The left has gone completely insane
Not insane at all for their goals. Gates and Bezos and the other billionaires are buying up all the farmland, and now houses. They want to farm US.

Disabling our education is essential to that goal.

Dividing us by race, gender, sexual orientation, etc is textbook, it's not insane at all. It's how it's done.

The next pandemic will take out more small business, if the minimum wage hike doesn't solve that for them.
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Old 06-17-2021, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Oregon, formerly Texas
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Literally 'hard work' is defined as racist now. https://www.wnd.com/2020/07/smithson...d-work-racist/

Another thing that is banned to say in schools in Texas as of Tuesday.

We're not going to stop teaching white and black kids to work hard to achieve what they want to, we're not going to have a basic universal income so that this is no longer required of everyone, one of the places this agenda is going. Trying to go.

The same people pushing CRT are pushing other communist ideas as well, if they think you don't have to work under communism............lol they don't understand.

But that is where they are trying to go with all of this.
LOLOLOL these silly bans! What ridiculous theater. And they specified the 1619 Project hahahaaaa. The 1619 Project is an opinion piece. Or rather, a series of opinion pieces + a podcast. They wrote a law to ban an op-ed.

It's like trying to ban Catcher in the Rye back in the 50s-60s because the protagonist was disrespectful to his elders. And ironically, people said the book was a "communist plot" back then too. Banning it just made people want to read Catcher in the Rye.

I wonder if they realize they're walking clichés.

OMG I hope Texas tries to prosecute some teachers for teaching about race and they get put on trial. By the power of Greyskull I hope they do it.
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Old 06-17-2021, 03:14 PM
 
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LOLOLOL these silly bans! And they specified the 1619 Project hahahaaaa. The 1619 Project is an opinion piece. Or rather, a series of opinion pieces + a podcast. They wrote a law to ban an op-ed.

It's like trying to ban Catcher in the Rye back in the 50s because the protagonist was disrespectful to his elders. And ironically, people said the book was a "communist plot" back then too. Banning it just made people want to read Catcher in the Rye.

I wonder if they realize they're walking clichés.
yeah haha except that CRT *is* actually Marxist.

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Please please please, I hope they try to prosecute some teachers for teaching about race.
Give an example of what sort of 'teaching about race' a teacher could get prosecuted for under this law?

And yeah, an opinion piece taught as fact was banned, absolutely.
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Old 06-17-2021, 03:24 PM
 
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LOLOLOL these silly bans! What ridiculous theater. And they specified the 1619 Project hahahaaaa. The 1619 Project is an opinion piece. Or rather, a series of opinion pieces + a podcast. They wrote a law to ban an op-ed.

It's like trying to ban Catcher in the Rye back in the 50s-60s because the protagonist was disrespectful to his elders. And ironically, people said the book was a "communist plot" back then too. Banning it just made people want to read Catcher in the Rye.

I wonder if they realize they're walking clichés.

OMG I hope Texas tries to prosecute some teachers for teaching about race and they get put on trial. By the power of Greyskull I hope they do it.
And yet these Marxist aparatchiks are pushing the teaching of this New York Times 1619 project editorial as an alternative history to the founding of our country. You are snickering at it, while they are doing it.

It is an aggression against our society by these vile people. It is not a microaggression, rather it is a macroaggression.
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Old 06-17-2021, 03:25 PM
 
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The question should be "Define Critical Race Theory". That would be a lot more fun.
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Old 06-17-2021, 03:30 PM
 
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yeah haha except that CRT *is* actually Marxist.



Give an example of what sort of 'teaching about race' a teacher could get prosecuted for under this law?

And yeah, an opinion piece taught as fact was banned, absolutely.
They'll have to define "critical race theory" first in order to distinguish it from from just teaching American history and sociology.

It would be a monkey trial of the highest order and I SO want to see it!
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Old 06-17-2021, 03:46 PM
 
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And yet these Marxist aparatchiks are pushing the teaching of this New York Times 1619 project editorial as an alternative history to the founding of our country. You are snickering at it, while they are doing it.

It is an aggression against our society by these vile people. It is not a microaggression, rather it is a macroaggression.
I actually teach history, or at least used to, and I have read the whole 1619 project and listened to its podcast.

The NYT itself defines it as an opinion piece about history, and indeed the author won the pulitzer price in 2020 in the commentary category. It is not a work of academic history by an historian. The author is a journalist.

The purpose of using it in curriculum would be an epistemological exercise; to get the students to think about how we know what we think we know. And then beyond that, how history should be used in modern society when you go beyond the book club. Or even if it should at all.

The 1619 project is not about history itself and the author did not do original research... because it was an op-ed. Historians criticized it rightly for making conclusions without evidence such as "The American Revolution was fought to preserve slavery" which it was not, even the historians of race said so.

Books that talk about race and make the argument that 1619 does... that slavery is America's original sin... have been written in the historical profession for decades. Here's one from 1967 that was a bombshell within the field at the time it came out: White Over Black: American Attitudes toward the Negro, 1550-1812 by Winthrop D. Jordan. Old enough that it still used the un-PC anachronism "negro" in the title. But the argument of the book (and THIS IS originally researched) is that white Englishmen were racist against blacks going back to the late middle ages and they carried that with them to America in the colonial period, and that socio-cultural attitude encouraged and justified the Atlantic Slave Trade.

What's funny about all this is that any of you think it's new. Most of the cultural arguments I've been hearing are VERY similar to cultural arguments of the 1960s. It's the same kind of stuff Malcolm X said, which was the same kind of stuff W.E.B. DuBois said. The conversation is even replete with the communism accusations even though without the Cold War it seems so absurdly irrelevant now.
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Old 06-17-2021, 03:46 PM
 
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They'll have to define "critical race theory" first in order to distinguish it from from just teaching American history and sociology.

It would be a monkey trial of the highest order and I SO want to see it!
The legislation in various places defines the illegal behaviors. No point arguing about definitions beyond the ones specified in the new laws.
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Old 06-17-2021, 04:13 PM
 
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They'll have to define "critical race theory" first in order to distinguish it from from just teaching American history and sociology.

It would be a monkey trial of the highest order and I SO want to see it!
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Today, the rupture with the linguistic universe of the Establishment is more radical: in the most militant areas of protest, it amounts to a methodical reversal of meaning. It is a familiar phenomenon that sub-cultural groups develop their own language, taking the harmless words of everyday communication out of their context and using them for designating objects or activities tabooed by the Establishment. This is the Hippie subculture: “trip,” “grass,” “pot,” “acid,” and so on. But a far more subversive universe of discourse announces itself in the language of black militants. Here is a systematic linguistic rebellion, which smashes the ideological context in which the words are employed and defined, and places them into the opposite context – negation of the established one.[16] Thus, the blacks “take over” some of the most sublime and sublimated concepts of Western civilization, desublimate them, and redefine them.
https://www.marxists.org/reference/a...liberation.htm

If you remove the ability from Crits to selectively discriminate they have nothing, nada, zilch. There’s no The Great Grifting™ if they have to deal within the constraints of the US Constitution…

“critical race theory questions the very foundations of the liberal order, including equality theory, legal reasoning, Enlightenment rationalism, and neutral principles of constitutional law.”

https://uniteyouthdublin.files.wordp...okfi-org-1.pdf

Kimberle Crenshaw telling you why you won’t see a definition for CRT.
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/c...l-race-theory/
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