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There is the real CRT, which is niche law school level curricula, and isn't even taught at all law schools. K-12 students cannot understand that if they tried.
Then there is how race issues have invaded pop culture ever since the Floyd murder. There is some CRT-influenced stuff in the "anti-racism" pop literature, most notably "White Fragility" by Robin DiAngelo and "How To Be an Anti-Racist" by Ibram Kendi. Also the 1619 project, which drives conservatives OFF THE WALL, has a little CRT in it. That is not CRT though, it is a journalistic publication designed for a general audience. Some of these things are of use or intended to be of use in some middle school, high school social studies. Well now they banned using the 1619 Project in some state but the students can google that very easily found op-ed online.
Also the white privilege concept, which I note drives some of our resident commenters off the wall. That is technically not CRT; privilege theory originally came from the realm of literature, interestingly enough.
Technically none of that is CRT proper, but a little influenced by it in the footnotes maybe. It's so much theater to ban it from K-12. It'd be like banning advanced music theory from high school marching band classes.
Texas didn't ban 'CRT', they banned certain things form being taught whether they come from CRT or White Fragility or the teacher's anus is irrelevant.
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I find all of it pretty funny. Schools did not succeed in banning Lolita or Catcher in the Rye in the sixties. Anyone who wanted to read them, found them easily, and that was pre-internet. With the internet it's even easier
Anything can be accessed on the internet including porn videos, it doesn't mean we stop keeping things like that out of the classroom.
CRT is a method used by a movement to emotionally manipulate the masses into feeling enough discontent and anger, that they will revolt against the state and society. This discontent is slightly tempered by a little hope of some unspecified better future.
The “history lessons” themselves are not the point, the emotional response to the lesson is the point.
If the lessons from history were reality-based, it would be more challenging to manipulate people.
Fr'instance, the debate over race-based enslavement began during the first Continental Congress. The ink was barely dry on the Declaration of Independence when one of its signers, Thomas Lynch, threatened secession:
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Originally Posted by John Adams diary 27, notes on Continental Congress, 13 May - 10 September 1776
Chase. Moves that the Word, White, should be inserted in the 11. Article. The Negroes are wealth. Numbers are not a certain Rule of wealth. It is the best Rule We can lay down. Negroes a Species of Property -- personal Estate. If Negroes are taken into the Computation of Numbers, [illegible] to ascertain Wealth, they ought to be in settling the Representation. The Massachusetts Fisheries, and Navigation ought to be taken into Consideration. The young and old Negroes are a Burthen to their owners. The Eastern Colonies have a great Advantage, in Trade. This will give them a Superiority. We should shall be governed by our Interests, and ought to be. If I am satisfied, in the Rule of levying and appropriating Money, I am willing the small Colonies may have a Vote.
Wilson. If the War continues a Years, each Soul will have 40 dollars to pay of the public debt. It will be the greatest Encouragement to continue Slave keeping, and to increase them, that can be to exempt them from the Numbers which are to vote and pay. . . . Slaves are Taxables in the Southern Colonies. It will be partial and unequal. Some Colonies have as many black as white. . . . These will not pay more than half what they ought. Slaves prevent freemen cultivating a Country. It is attended with many Inconveniences.
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Lynch. If it is debated, whether their Slaves are their Property, there is an End of the Confederation. Our Slaves being our Property, why should they be taxed more than the Land, Sheep, Cattle, Horses, &c.
Freemen cannot be got, to work in our Colonies. It is not in the Ability, or Inclination of freemen to do the Work that the Negroes do. Carolina has taxed their Lands Negroes. So have other Colonies, their Lands.
Dr. Franklin. Slaves rather weaken than strengthen the State, and there is therefore some difference between them and Sheep. Sheep will never make any Insurrections.
Rutledge. . . . . I shall be happy to get rid of the idea of Slavery. The Slaves do not signify Property. The old and young cannot work. The Property of some Colonies are to be taxed, in others not. The Eastern Colonies will become the Carriers for the Southern. They will obtain Wealth for which they will not be taxed.
The KKK and their terrorism is taught. I see no reason why the Red Summer could not be, it was terrorism by white supremacists.
Same for the Tulsa Massacre that everyone is up in arms about, I knew about it before Biden went to commemorate it, it isn't the fault of the public school system that many people did not.
They cannot teach 400 years of black history in America before we all reach 18. We can agree all day on particular incidents.
Emmit Till - sparked a civil rights movement of epic proportions, that should be taught.
Rodney King and those riots.
The time they dropped a bomb on a city block in Philadelphia.
The Central Park 5.
We could go on and on but at the end of it all, sitting down and designing curriculum, we're going to have time constraints to teach it all and NA history and women's suffrage and, and and.
They can't learn it all before 18! I don't know how to more plainly state that.
I have no idea what this talk of controversy and discomfort is about. No one said that must be free of controversy and discomfort.
It was difficult to learn about and it will always be.
"This talk of controversy & discomfort" is primarily based on the fact that generations of American people were taught mythologies rather than realty-based history.
Textbooks on the American Civil War were carefully scrutinized to ensure they presented the Lost Cause mythologies, no uncomfortable truths that would present the Slaver States in their true light. Why avoid teaching history based on primary sources?
Take the domestic terrorism of the KKK. The United Daughters of the Confederacy were not only instrumental in making sure the Lost Cause mythologies & propaganda were in the textbooks, the KKK was their arm of enforcement of their white supremacist ideology. It is no accident. Books, movies, & the many memorials built to honor the treason based on the preservation, protection & expansion of race-based enslavement just served to reinforce the mythologies & propaganda.
The KKK were characterized as heroes in Gone With the Wind, can it be more clear than that?
Apparently not.
Black history is American history.
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I think this all boils down to white people no longer having the ability to whitewash history. You people have been in control and had well over 200 years to create a proper and TRUE curriculum...particularly as it pertains to history. You have failed. No surprise there. Anything that makes snowflakes uncomfortable is forbidden. Don't want to hear how the Civil War was fought because states wanted to keep blacks in bondage? No problem, we'll say it was really about "states rights". How about a mob of white people BOMBING entire black towns. No problem, we'll just ignore it. Don't want to hear how Africans were stolen (much like every other commodity the continent had to offer). Sure no problem. We'll just call slaves "immigrants" and "workers"...as if they voluntarily came to America. What about indigenous Indians? Don't want to hear about the genocide of those people and how indigenous children were sent to boarding schools to try to make them "cilivized" by destroying their culture. No worries. Its all covered (up).
White people have never wanted to acknowledge the true effect of slavery, Jim Crow, and other heinous acts committed against minorities. The LIE that America is some great paragon of virtue....some mythical land of exceptionalism is considered more important than the truth. That America is not great, and has never been great (at least for those who aren't white).
Agree. It's difficult, if not impossible, to continue to cover up lies forever. If not because the history is so well documented, it is because even a child, presented with the facts of the matter, will come to common sense conclusions.
Here's an interview with David Zucchini, the author of Wilmington's Lie: The Murderous Coup Of 1898 And The Rise Of White Supremacy.
'Wilmington's Lie' Author Traces The Rise Of White Supremacy In A Southern City
Journalist David Zucchino says Wilmington, N.C., was once a mixed-race community with a thriving black middle class. Then, in 1898, white supremacists staged a murderous coup that changed everything.
That’s some struggle, your struggle! That’s a serious question! What shall we do with all of them? Do you have any solutions? We need something finalizing.
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
The "solutions" involve 'ripping off the bandaid'. It's hard to beat fresh air & sunshine.
It should be taught as a (very) problematic theory, but not as the truth. If students don’t understand how stupid the theory is, they may fall prey to it later.
Texas didn't ban 'CRT', they banned certain things form being taught whether they come from CRT or White Fragility or the teacher's anus is irrelevant.
Anything can be accessed on the internet including porn videos, it doesn't mean we stop keeping things like that out of the classroom.
They should be teaching an honest account of our history, I don't like politicians getting involved in the education system regardless of which side of the debate they fall. I'm not sure why Texas needed to take action, the term CRT is a tiresome term so broad to render it meaningless. Teachers don't use the term and the curriculum should be left to the school districts.
Texas didn't ban 'CRT', they banned certain things form being taught whether they come from CRT or White Fragility or the teacher's anus is irrelevant.
Anything can be accessed on the internet including porn videos, it doesn't mean we stop keeping things like that out of the classroom.
Yes, Texas banned any curricula that makes [white] students feel distressed or guilty, LOL. Good luck enforcing that.
Suddenly it's the Republicans who care about people's feelings. Ironic, since their slogan in the Trump era was "F*** Your Feelings."
The "solutions" involve 'ripping off the bandaid'. It's hard to beat fresh air & sunshine.
Perfect analogy. This is another false assumption because of an old wives tale and probably what amounted to a long drawn out telephone game. Today they call it “lived experience.” It’s false although UVR does disinfect and may possibly have been used in the past to treat wounds, humans quickly sought alternatives and now the bandaid stays out as an outer barrier white an antibiotic treats the wound. We stay whole and “cured” later. Or we rip the bandaid off at take our chances at getting reinfected and gangrene.
So, what do you think about teachers using student’s emotions and anger to push for economic and political revolution in the US bypassing the ballot box and Parents and instead shooting for the gray matter of young minds all done with linguistic traps, obfuscated language and in secret? Well, it was being carried out in secret.
I mean it’s cool, it’s not like there’s any outrage or anything when something attacks people’s children. I bet you’d get along great with your child’s attacker! What’s the worst that could happen?
SBC changes its curricula to Ideological Introspect
"They" gone...
Great test case for the "nation" I guess. Many of us already know what happens. Tensions and anxiety are increased until some random event occurs that sets off the firestorm. Then they say "Look! We need more power because X!" Rinse and repeat until they have all the power. Then I guess we all get to find out if we were okay or not with giving up democracy and freedom, including of thought. We know they're not democratic, they can barely hold back the rage when someone like the black male with two medical degrees speaks out against them. They instantly dehumanized him. He was turned into nothing. Anyone that knows any history knows what that allows a person to do.to others and it's not a good path to go down. Go look at the responses to his video on Ida Bae Wells on Twitter. That's a real garbage hole there so I realize that's not the real world. It does give one an inkling of what is going through the minds of some of these folks just under the surface.
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I argue that the ideological critique produced by Marx in the nineteenth century and by critical legal theorists in the twentieth and twenty-first centuries undertakes not only to persuade our minds but also to rally our emotions. To accomplish this, critical theorists show us that ideology is already a technique of emotion management. Ideology makes suffering invisible and compassion inappropriate by assuring us that the status quo is natural, normal, and necessary. Ideological critique, in turn, reveals the suffering beneath the bland façade of ideological concepts like “capital” and “property.” It tries to persuade us, moreover, that this suffering is unjust and unnecessary: that politics and not nature is its source, and that we should act to relieve it.
Consequently, it was his view that "one should refrain from facile rhetoric about direct attacks against the State and concentrate instead on the difficult and immensely complicated tasks that a 'war of position' within civil society entails" (Buttigieg, 2005:41). Described by Gramsci as "the only viable possibility in the West," a 'war of position' is resistance to domination with culture, rather than physical might, as its foundation (Gramsci, 2007:168). Cox succinctly describes a 'war of position' as process which "slowly builds up the strength of the social foundations of a new state" by "creating alternative institutions and alternative intellectual resources within existing society" (Cox, 1983:165). For Gramsci, issues of culture are what lie at the heart of any revolutionary project; culture is "how class is lived," it shapes how people see their world and how they maneuver within in it and, more importantly, "it shapes their ability to imagine how it might be changed, and whether they see such changes as feasible or desirable" (Crehan, 2002:71). The complex program of radical social change in a modern liberal democracy, as described by Gramsci, involves more than anything, developing a strong and dynamic culture capable of establishing the necessary institutions for a subversion of hegemony.
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