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View Poll Results: Should CRT be taught in our schools?
Yes 91 16.34%
No 447 80.25%
Other 19 3.41%
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Old 06-29-2021, 03:59 PM
 
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nope.

I do want what is actually known to have happened at Tulsa told. And I want the "it was worse than what was recorded" told, and the "it was not worse than what was reported" told.

It's like just saying "Blacks were slaves until 1865." or "Juneteenth celebrates that far-flung Blacks were finally freed 2.5 years after they were actually freed." Neither of those is accurate.
That is not accurate, in Texas slaves were not freed for years after the Emancipation Proclamation.
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Old 06-29-2021, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Critical Race Theory is a catchphrase that outlets like Fox News glommed onto for ratings. It’s a cudgel they use to bash progressives and little more.

Before anyone decides how they feel about CRT, they should take some time away from media to learn what it is from an unbiased source, because I am hearing a lot of distortions that are pure fear-mongering. I think Wikipedia might be a good starting place to start learning about what CRT is and THEN take time to find out if it is in the curriculum of your son or daughter’s school.

Of course, if you think that any kind of anti-racism education is making white people ashamed of their race, or that your sons and daughters are too stupid to engage in a discussions of issues like systemic racism without being brainwashed and turned into Marxists, then no amount of learning will help.

It’s amazing how easily Fox News and others who profit from fear and outrage can focus on one strand of academia and turn it into a cash register by telling their audiences that their children are at risk of being brainwashed by the left.
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Old 06-29-2021, 04:15 PM
 
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CRT is not just a theory or a discussion of "history". It is a movement of activists. It is an agenda.

In the schools, children are not just being taught "about" critical race theory. They are being trained and indoctrinated "in" critical race theory.
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Old 06-29-2021, 04:41 PM
 
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Critical Race Theory is a catchphrase that outlets like Fox News glommed onto for ratings. It’s a cudgel they use to bash progressives and little more.

Before anyone decides how they feel about CRT, they should take some time away from media to learn what it is from an unbiased source, because I am hearing a lot of distortions that are pure fear-mongering. I think Wikipedia might be a good starting place to start learning about what CRT is and THEN take time to find out if it is in the curriculum of your son or daughter’s school.

Of course, if you think that any kind of anti-racism education is making white people ashamed of their race, or that your sons and daughters are too stupid to engage in a discussions of issues like systemic racism without being brainwashed and turned into Marxists, then no amount of learning will help.

It’s amazing how easily Fox News and others who profit from fear and outrage can focus on one strand of academia and turn it into a cash register by telling their audiences that their children are at risk of being brainwashed by the left.
Yeah, they should do that…

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A. What Is Critical Race Theory?
The critical race theory (CRT) movement is a collection of activists and scholars interested in studying and transforming the relationship among race, racism, and power. The movement considers many of the same issues that conventional civil rights and ethnic studies discourses take up, but places them in a broader perspective that includes economics, history, context, group- and self-interest, and even feelings and the unconscious. Unlike traditional civil rights, which embraces incrementalism and step-by-step progress, critical race theory questions the very foundations of the liberal order, including equality theory, legal reasoning, Enlightenment rationalism, and neutral principles of constitutional law.
Critical Race Theory: An Introduction
Delgado & Stefancic
Foreword: Angela Harris

https://uniteyouthdublin.files.wordp...okfi-org-1.pdf

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Marx famously wrote, “The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.”4 Critical theory differs from pure philosophy in its motivation to provoke change, and thus it necessarily traffics in the emotions.5 Challenging power relations, as critical theorists love to do, means provoking anger, disquiet, anxiety, and even fear in those with a settled understanding of who they are and where they belong...

In this Essay, I am interested in the relationship among ideology, ideological critique, and emotion. I argue that the ideological critique produced by Marx in the nineteenth century and by critical legal theorists in the twentieth and twenty-first centuries undertakes not only to persuade our minds but also to rally our emotions. To accomplish this, critical theorists show us that ideology is already a technique of emotion management. Ideology makes suffering invisible and compassion inappropriate by assuring us that the status quo is natural, normal, and necessary. Ideological critique, in turn, reveals the suffering beneath the bland façade of ideological concepts like “capital” and “property.” It tries to persuade us, moreover, that this suffering is unjust and unnecessary: that politics and not nature is its source, and that we should act to relieve it.

Like Marx, critical race theorists therefore want us to care about the subordinated.8 Yet several pitfalls await. First, caring must be connected to moral outrage to produce a commitment to action. Caring without outrage is only merely pity, an emotion that requires no action, only the feeling of sympathy. Critical theorists must strive to cultivate indignation as well as caring in their readers’ hearts. A second pitfall is related to the first. Observing the suffering of others may provoke compassion, but it may also reinforce a sense of their inferiority, their need for our charity. Conversely, a politics rooted in displays of suffering threatens to become “therapeutic,” a politics in which the subordinated seek only public recognition of their wounds and a sense of moral superiority rather than the transformation of social relations.9 Third, critical theory must simultaneously convince us that injustice is everywhere, and that change is possible.
http://blogs.law.columbia.edu/abolit...Tde2Mz_boJWF2c

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Crenshaw—who coined the term “CRT”—notes that CRT is not a noun, but a verb. It cannot be confined to a static and narrow definition but is considered to be an evolving and malleable practice.
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/c...l-race-theory/

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We were told that the theory was not grounded in Marxism, only to hear advocates of critical race theory tell us flat out that it is grounded in Marxism. We heard that the theory is not anti-American, only to have critical race scholars grounded in this research tell us that it is anti-American. We were told that critical race theory is not being taught to American school children, only to find that it has been intentionally integrated into pedagogy over the last two decades.
The pundit class wants to use this theory to indoctrinate Americans in every level of discourse, yet when it's noticed and combatted, they move the target and say that the darlings of the academic and pedagogical movements are not actually critical race theorists.
https://thepostmillennial.com/reveal...zg58umnLz9mugM

Let us know whenever you’re ready to come back to reality and quit with the self delusion.
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Old 06-29-2021, 04:41 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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It’s amazing how easily Fox News and others who profit from fear and outrage can focus on one strand of academia and turn it into a cash register by telling their audiences that their children are at risk of being brainwashed by the left.
100% true. This same tactic has worked since the 1980s.

Almost nobody is talking about CRT outside of right-wing media and left-wing media that reports/comments on what right-wing media is promoting.
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Old 06-29-2021, 04:44 PM
 
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Well I would say he’s had enough…
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Old 06-29-2021, 04:48 PM
 
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100% true. This same tactic has worked since the 1980s.

Almost nobody is talking about CRT outside of right-wing media and left-wing media that reports/comments on what right-wing media is promoting.
When you get called out for your lies every time you open your mouth it tends to shut people TFU. They don’t have anything else, the sham is over. We wasted the past decade wondering why we had become polarized and now we find out that it is all based on this neo-Marxist BS that simply posits to do the opposite of everything traditional and the Utopia will usher its way on in.

Literally, that’s what your pathetic “left wing” platform is all about. Do the opposite. Do the Hegelian dialectical dance.

https://socialistworker.org/2015/07/...why-it-matters
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Old 06-29-2021, 05:17 PM
 
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Critical Race Theory is a catchphrase that outlets like Fox News glommed onto for ratings. It’s a cudgel they use to bash progressives and little more.

Before anyone decides how they feel about CRT, they should take some time away from media to learn what it is from an unbiased source, because I am hearing a lot of distortions that are pure fear-mongering. I think Wikipedia might be a good starting place to start learning about what CRT is and THEN take time to find out if it is in the curriculum of your son or daughter’s school.

Of course, if you think that any kind of anti-racism education is making white people ashamed of their race, or that your sons and daughters are too stupid to engage in a discussions of issues like systemic racism without being brainwashed and turned into Marxists, then no amount of learning will help.

It’s amazing how easily Fox News and others who profit from fear and outrage can focus on one strand of academia and turn it into a cash register by telling their audiences that their children are at risk of being brainwashed by the left.
I get that one of the reasons behind pushing CRT (at this time) is to cause shame and guilt among white people but that’s a minor issue. I think that with the exception of some mental cases, white people will be OK.

But I’m concerned more about black people and black kids in particular. What can a black child conclude? After all CRT theorizes a certain situation, but doesn’t suggest solutions. The theory doesn’t deal with racist individuals, but with a nation that was founded on racism and it continues up to this day.

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Old 06-29-2021, 05:23 PM
 
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Well I would say he’s had enough…
That is a very impressive list of pronouns he has at the end of that letter.
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Old 06-29-2021, 05:25 PM
 
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When you get called out for your lies every time you open your mouth it tends to shut people TFU. They don’t have anything else, the sham is over. We wasted the past decade wondering why we had become polarized and now we find out that it is all based on this neo-Marxist BS that simply posits to do the opposite of everything traditional and the Utopia will usher its way on in.

Literally, that’s what your pathetic “left wing” platform is all about. Do the opposite. Do the Hegelian dialectical dance.

https://socialistworker.org/2015/07/...why-it-matters

Great post.
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