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Old 05-31-2021, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Never heard of those, either. Do you have a link for that?
You can maybe start here

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03217-0
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Old 05-31-2021, 04:16 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Wow, very interesting, have to read it more carefully tomorrow
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Old 05-31-2021, 04:24 PM
 
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They did not deliberately put poison in stuff,
yes they did.....100% on purpose......good grief...have you been living under a rock?

melamine...to make it test a higher protein content
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Old 06-01-2021, 03:20 AM
 
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I heard about those too. I believe the Spain wastewater with covid was from SPRING of 2019. The spread of covid would not happen overnight no matter where and how it originated. With so many international flights daily, it should not be surprising to find covid in Europe in autumn of 2019.

Most people also have not heard about the Cambodian, Thai, and Japan coronaviruses that were found after covid-19. These share many of the same features as covid19 but from different bats.
On the first point, there are NOW some models demonstrating Covid emerged in October 2019 in China. (Some of the reports of early Covid viruses in Italy, etc were given the label ‘early’ in reference to China’s first public report on 31 December 2019. China has now said their records indicate their first patients were early December 2019 BTW). Additionally, some very very early dates (including Spring 2019) were yielded from test results now deemed questionable.

To the second point, bat coronaviruses have been found in the wild and frozen in labs but not THE bat coronavirus.

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Old 06-01-2021, 06:51 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Study shows that Chinese scientists did create the Covid virus while working on a Gain of Function project in the Wuhan lab....
Gain of Function was outlawed in this country....they farmed the work out to China

..when caught, the Chinese scientists tried to reverse engineer the virus...to try to make it look like it naturally arose in bats

"The researchers, who concluded that COVID-19 'has no credible natural ancestor',"

"The study also points to 'deliberate destruction, concealment or contamination of data' in Chinese labs and notes that 'scientists who wished to share their findings haven't been able to do so or have disappeared' "
I have one question; if it were proven beyond a doubt that the virus was even deliberately engineered, would the U.S. go to war over it? Or would the U.S. response be entirely "coordinated cries of anguish and nicely orchestrated hand-wringing" (original phrase by William Safire, a New York Times columnist (link to Safire article). Or maybe token "sanctions" that are quietly dropped?
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Old 06-02-2021, 12:03 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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I have one question; if it were proven beyond a doubt that the virus was even deliberately engineered, would the U.S. go to war over it? Or would the U.S. response be entirely "coordinated cries of anguish and nicely orchestrated hand-wringing" (original phrase by William Safire, a New York Times columnist (link to Safire article). Or maybe token "sanctions" that are quietly dropped?
If it came from a lab at all, it was likely engineered deliberately, and that's no problem. Labs do that in order to better understand how to develop vaccines, how a virus might evolve over time, etc.

The only question in my view is: Was the virus set free deliberately or not?
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Old 06-03-2021, 12:33 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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If it came from a lab at all, it was likely engineered deliberately, and that's no problem. Labs do that in order to better understand how to develop vaccines, how a virus might evolve over time, etc.

The only question in my view is: Was the virus set free deliberately or not?
you don't care if it was released as a result of negligence or sloppy lab procedures? why not?

are you really that beholden to your sino gods?
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Old 06-03-2021, 02:27 PM
 
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you don't care if it was released as a result of negligence or sloppy lab procedures? why not?

are you really that beholden to your sino gods?
Accidents will always happen...
It would be a particularly regrettable one in this case of course, but still...

If an employee made some mistake, that person might be sued for negligent homicide under certain conditions. But what is the point? He or she can't pay for all the damage the virus has caused. He or she probably has a few hundred or thousand yuan in their bank account, that is it. In Germany for instance the sentence for negligent homicide ranges between 1 month and 5 years of jail, often suspended or replaced by an adequate fine. If an employee has made such a mistake and caused the pandemic, he or she would certainly be suffering tremendously already and maybe tempted to commit suicide. Also, the person might not even know they caused the pandemic if it was one of those people that show no symptoms whatsoever.
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Old 06-03-2021, 10:11 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Accidents will always happen...
It would be a particularly regrettable one in this case of course, but still...
How many more times (there have been at least 3 so far) will china have this type of "accident" before something is done about it ?
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Old 06-03-2021, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Alabama
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How many more times (there have been at least 3 so far) will china have this type of "accident" before something is done about it ?
That really isn't the right question to be asking...I would be asking how long before they create something along the lines of the 'T Virus' from Resident Evil and deploy that in the US!!!!
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