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Old 05-30-2021, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Currently in Florida for a little while
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Democrats were great about 60 years ago, when they weren't full blown woke marxists.
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Old 05-30-2021, 11:22 AM
 
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OK, blame me for voting for Gavin Newsom in 2018 and Biden last year, but up until recently I didn't think the Dems were inept. I used to think Bush was for not capturing Bin Laden, especially when Obama was able to take care of that. But overall, I didn't think either party had an advantage over the other in terms of competence.

But after watching Gavin Newsom here bounce from one challenge to another with no plan, and seeing Biden/Harris do the same nationally, there seems to be woke governance coming in that says don't deal with reality and blame everything on straw man white supremacists, racists, etc.

I have zero confidence that any Dem can deal with homelessness, crime, immigration, COVID, or the economy. They want to just blame racists, climate change, Trump, or whatever, but then they can't make a plan of their own. It didn't used to be like this. How could any cop now have confidence in a Dem who's fallen over themselves to praise BLM/defund? How can a border community have confidence when the person in charge of the plan, VP Harris, is absent and focused on climate change, union paybacks, and 10 other issues? How can we expect them to deal with homelessness when they're ok with encampments everywhere?

It seems that being woke is now influencing how they govern. Can't police, can't close down an encampment, can't control the border (and I favor more immigration just not border chaos), can't address inflation, can barely put together foreign policy.

To manage something properly you have to deal with reality, not woke fantasies. Right now, they don't seem to have that ability.

Well put.


But, sadly, this is a more positive perception of things than I have.


I think it's all by design. They are trashing the country on purpose.


We are now in Total Clown World where up is down and vice versa.


Why else have open borders, kill our own energy supply whilst assisting the Russians' energy hegemony over Europe, convey our military as identity-obsessed narcissists, raise the BLM terrorist flag on government buildings, teach our children to judge themselves and others based on race, pay people to stay at home unemployed.....the list goes on.



Just a few years ago, party politics would have nothing to do with most people from all corners of the ideology spectrum unanimously condemning any of these approaches. It is literally anti-common sense. Unless, of course, it's on purpose - to demoralize us all.


Oh, and then there's this:


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Kamala Harris got lambasted on social media for a tweet encouraging people to “enjoy the long weekend” while making no mention of Memorial Day, or those who gave their lives in service of the country.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politic...ekend-n1450826


We are being gas lit by globalist nihilists who have nothing but disdain for this country and everything it stands for.


The good news? This will not last. One hurricane of a backlash is building...
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Old 05-30-2021, 11:25 AM
 
Location: NC
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It’s because complaining about the system or pointing out it’s flaws is way easier than running the system. Being in charge means having to make tough choices and often being classified as a big meany. If I had a dollar for every time a student teacher or brand new teacher said to me or wrote in their reflections that they had no idea how hard it was to be the one actually in charge of the classroom I’d probably make an extra grand a year.

Additionally, philosophically Republicans tend to be focused on what the system needs, whereas Democrats tend to be focused on what the individual needs. It is a root fundamental difference between conservatism and liberalism. We need a good balance of both and cooperation between the two, which is why it’s best for the American people when there is not single party rule.
I guess everything is based on opinion, but I've articulated EXACTLY the opposite, on both micro and macro levels.

My observation is that the R's are all about "I've got mine, so *********".
- Healthcare
- Foreign Aid
- Immigration
- Social Programs
and on and on and on. I've always actually respected it, because if you look at a red/blue map, places that are heavily R are generally rural, where nobody lives, and people HAVE to take care of themselves. D's usually live in cities where "every man for himself" only creates more crimes (which the R's then blame on D's, but that's another discussion).

Just in general, it is MY OPINION that R's are very individualistic, and D's are more Society based. I don't think either is bad or good, inherently, just an observation.


Also, it is always R's who complain about the system. Remember when Trump was running? All he could talk about was how bad America is, and that we had to vote for him to fix it. People forget that, but I think his most used word to describe our beloved country was "Disaster". I guess I would have less of a problem with it if he had left it better than he found it, but he left us on life support instead.
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Old 05-30-2021, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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OP, what you say is obvious to anyone paying attention at all. They spent 4 years trying to remove a legally elected president from office and overthrow the will of the American electorate. They were NEVER condemned by the media, and in fact encouraged to continue their little seditious stunt. They embraced BLM/Pantifa terrorist attacks against ordinary American citizens for years-and were never called out by the media. They led anti-Semitic attacks against Jews and against Israel-and still the media does nothing to condemn them. The Democratic party attacks police officers that put their lives on the line to protect innocent Americans from vicious criminals...yep, media supports them. Democratic party creates a nationwide disaster with foreign criminals invading this country with impunity, yep, still embraced by the media.

My point-you're utterly correct about the incompetence, ignorance and impotence of the Democratic party-but a great many people will have zero clue-since there is absolutely no news coverage, and "big tech" suppresses the truth on social media sites.
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Old 05-30-2021, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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lol @ "starting to seem" inept.
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Starting to? It's been evident for years to anyone who wasn't watching the Clinton News Network or MSDNC.
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starting?
First thing that came to my mind when I saw the thread title! LOL!

Inept is just the beginning. Bat chit crazy is likely a more proper description. And there is a lot of bat chit crazy yet to be seen with the current administration.

The fact that they despise Trump yet embrace the current pathetic racist stooge with open arms should make any normal person shake their heads.
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Old 05-30-2021, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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The Democrats used to be about the working middle class. Now they are all about the poor, the minorities and the illegals.
Aka The Entitlement party
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Old 05-30-2021, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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It’s because complaining about the system or pointing out it’s flaws is way easier than running the system. Being in charge means having to make tough choices and often being classified as a big meany. If I had a dollar for every time a student teacher or brand new teacher said to me or wrote in their reflections that they had no idea how hard it was to be the one actually in charge of the classroom I’d probably make an extra grand a year.
What? I always thought it was "who couldn't do...who were the teachers."

If I had a dollar for every conservative I ever heard say that I would probably make about as much as your teaching salary in a year.

Lack of respect for how difficult jobs can be is a hallmark of many of your fellow conservatives. No respect for teachers, burger flippers, and gubmint workers...

I suppose lack of respect for politicians is the one place where this cuts both ways though.

It's probably also the reason that congress can't work together on anything anymore. None of them respect each other these days.
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Old 05-30-2021, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Sector 001
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They don't want to make the tough choices...they'd rather pander to everyone and give them free stuff to win more votes. The only thing they know how to do is throw money at the problem.
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Old 05-30-2021, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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OK, blame me for voting for Gavin Newsom in 2018 and Biden last year, but up until recently I didn't think the Dems were inept. I used to think Bush was for not capturing Bin Laden, especially when Obama was able to take care of that. But overall, I didn't think either party had an advantage over the other in terms of competence.

But after watching Gavin Newsom here bounce from one challenge to another with no plan, and seeing Biden/Harris do the same nationally, there seems to be woke governance coming in that says don't deal with reality and blame everything on straw man white supremacists, racists, etc.

I have zero confidence that any Dem can deal with homelessness, crime, immigration, COVID, or the economy. They want to just blame racists, climate change, Trump, or whatever, but then they can't make a plan of their own. It didn't used to be like this. How could any cop now have confidence in a Dem who's fallen over themselves to praise BLM/defund? How can a border community have confidence when the person in charge of the plan, VP Harris, is absent and focused on climate change, union paybacks, and 10 other issues? How can we expect them to deal with homelessness when they're ok with encampments everywhere?

It seems that being woke is now influencing how they govern. Can't police, can't close down an encampment, can't control the border (and I favor more immigration just not border chaos), can't address inflation, can barely put together foreign policy.

To manage something properly you have to deal with reality, not woke fantasies. Right now, they don't seem to have that ability.
Well, regarding Democrats and being inept, at least you eventually discovered that.

As far as Bin Laden, Obama didn't take care of that. The U.S. military did and by methods Obama disapproved of. The only reason Bin Laden wasn't found during the Bush years is because it takes time to locate a terrorist, especially one in hiding.
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Old 05-30-2021, 06:09 PM
 
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You get what you voted for, what is the problem?
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