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Old 06-06-2021, 10:32 AM
 
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No we're not here because of Americans posting nonsense about Canada. We're here because you and your ClubbSeal Team 6 Canadian pensioner squad perpetually camps out in the AMERICAN politics forum scavenging through all discussion for any activity relating to Canadian healthcare. Since it's inconceivable that anyone could have such an obsessive inferiority complex about their country and its healthcare, I have to conclude that there is something material in it for you that keeps you living on CD grinding out this continuously debunked fake news. You must be getting something for this propaganda. Seal skin sacks full of loonies? Free yearly syrup? Black market south of the border Moderna vax? Tar sand to fill potholes in your driveway? An RV to use for your yearly travelling socialized healthcare circus going town to town in America with a small Ferris wheel, deep fried seal blubber and the amazing Canadian bearded woman? You're getting something out of this and it can't be pats on the back and reps on CD. That defies all logic. Others here have held your nose in hard factual contradictions to your story and yet your response is to deflect, move the goal posts, ignore the data, willfully spam with other less relevant data and basically just keep regurgitating the script of socialized healthcare no matter what. Your carnival and its barkers cannot be taken seriously which is why .... (see below)



My Vietnam war movie vignette was not a strawman fallacy. Such a fallacy is a weak illegitimate debate tactic and per my conclusions about your disingenuous message I was not debating you. That was mockery and poking fun at what you're doing. It's not personal but I am totally mocking and marginalizing your message because it's neither honest nor fact based.
Hey me ol trout, (that's a Canadian term of endearment, particularly used in the NFLD), this is an INTERNATIONAL political forum. Nothing in the TOS says "restricted to the USA").

As for your attempts at cultural insults, we Canucks raise our Timmie's cups, and wish you much success in future formulations of erudite utterances.

 
Old 06-06-2021, 11:05 AM
 
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I am fine with universal health coverage for people who are not felons and contribute to society in some beneficial, tangible manner. Single, hardworking moms working 2 godawful jobs - absolutely. Loudmouth hoodrat moms breeding cause they love being uncivil contrarians - f 'em and take those kids away to somewhere stable.

Homeless military vets - absolutely. Panhandlers menacing civilians - hell no.

If you contribute to society, then yes, you should get something back.
Many of those panhandlers are vets, and most that panhandle have some mental disease. Throw them on the trash heap or try and help them?
 
Old 06-06-2021, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Hey me ol trout, (that's a Canadian term of endearment, particularly used in the NFLD), this is an INTERNATIONAL political forum. Nothing in the TOS says "restricted to the USA").

As for your attempts at cultural insults, we Canucks raise our Timmie's cups, and wish you much success in future formulations of erudite utterances.
Bubba, if that ain't a challenge it'll do until the challenge gets here (not unfriendly Texanism). You seem to have a pretty thick hide, normstad. I like that.
 
Old 06-06-2021, 01:07 PM
 
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One year anomaly. Now look at the 10 year chart.

because countries with a lot of socialist programs hits the fan later not in the beginning.

Ontario which is the biggest province in Canada, their healthcare cost took 46% of the whole budget in 2010. By 2030 it will take 80% of the whole budget. This is not anomaly for just 1 year, this is going to get worse in Canada. That is what socialism does. They start good but it ends bad.
 
Old 06-06-2021, 01:11 PM
 
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the chances are that you were cleverly manipulated by Frank Luntz, a Republican pollster who tested various biased phrases, and advocated the phrase "government takeover" as the best to scare people off.
Because Dems always tell the truth in a factual, logical manner, devoid of emotion, instead of manipulating feeeeeelings to control people.

Move along, nothing to see here.
 
Old 06-06-2021, 01:13 PM
 
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The US isn't the place to go for cosmetic surgery. It's too costly here. South America or Asia is the place to go for that.

go at your own risk. There is a saying that says you get what you pay for. I want to know my doctors and their education and that they have to follow U.S. laws and regulations and my right as a patient be protected in court . Good luck in South America or Asia for any patient rights. If you want to take a risk with your body and health go ahead..
 
Old 06-06-2021, 01:22 PM
 
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Bubba, if that ain't a challenge it'll do until the challenge gets here (not unfriendly Texanism). You seem to have a pretty thick hide, normstad. I like that.
Hey me ol' son, I can redneck with the best of them if I have to. I live among them.
 
Old 06-06-2021, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Canada
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because countries with a lot of socialist programs hits the fan later not in the beginning.

Ontario which is the biggest province in Canada, their healthcare cost took 46% of the whole budget in 2010. By 2030 it will take 80% of the whole budget. This is not anomaly for just 1 year, this is going to get worse in Canada. That is what socialism does. They start good but it ends bad.
Ontario's population is 50% of Canada's population. So why shouldn't it take up 50% of the whole budget?

If Ontario's population becomes 80% of Canada's total population in 2030 (which is unlikely of course) then it stands to reason that it would take up 80% of the budget.

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Old 06-06-2021, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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because countries with a lot of socialist programs hits the fan later not in the beginning.

Ontario which is the biggest province in Canada, their healthcare cost took 46% of the whole budget in 2010. By 2030 it will take 80% of the whole budget. This is not anomaly for just 1 year, this is going to get worse in Canada. That is what socialism does. They start good but it ends bad.
Single payer in Ontario began in 1984, 36 years ago.

In 2010 Heath care cost 49.5% of the budget. Out of Ontario's total budget for 2021, health-care spending comprises about 37.5 per cent.

According to your theory we should have seen the costs rise drastically, instead they are declining.
 
Old 06-06-2021, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Ontario's population is 50% of Canada's population. So why shouldn't it take up 50% of the whole budget?

If Ontario's population becomes 80% of Canada's total population in 2030 (which is unlikely of course) then it stands to reason that it would take up 80% of the budget.

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I think he is referring to Ontario's budget rather than Canada's.
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