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Old 06-08-2021, 11:45 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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IRS estimates that about 6 million unauthorized immigrants file individual income tax returns each year. Research reviewed by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office indicates that between 50 percent and 75 percent of unauthorized immigrants pay federal, state, and local taxes.

https://www.thebalance.com/undocumen...ements-4778580
You didn't answer the question. How are illegal aliens paying federal income and payroll taxes and filing federal tax returns when they aren't eligible for a Social Security number (required to pay federal income and payroll taxes and to file a tax return)?

Like I said, only authorized temporary workers (H-2B, J-1, etc.) and those in non-immigrant visa status (H-1B) who are authorized to work in the United States by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) can get a Social Security number (SSN).

https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10096.pdf

Since illegal aliens aren't eligible for a SS number, that IRS "estimate" of 6 million is extremely doubtful.

 
Old 06-08-2021, 12:07 PM
 
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IRS estimates that about 6 million unauthorized immigrants file individual income tax returns each year. Research reviewed by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office indicates that between 50 percent and 75 percent of unauthorized immigrants pay federal, state, and local taxes.

https://www.thebalance.com/undocumen...ements-4778580
Bhaaaaa! They entered this country illegally and want to be under the radar to be in the underground economy but up to 75% will do their duty as Americans to file their federal, state and local income tax which most have a fake social security number or stolen. Yeah, thanks for the laugh.
 
Old 06-08-2021, 01:50 PM
 
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You are really grasping at straws.

Using the statistics you yourself posted, we all learned that Canadians travel abroad to access health care at a 36% higher rate than Americans do. That wouldn't be necessary if Canadian health care was as good as you seem to think it is. Canadians would just stay in Canada and use their supposedly wonderful national health care. But, gosh... they're not satisfied with their health care so they travel abroad more than Americans to access health care that's better and/or for which the wait times aren't as long as they are in Canada.

https://www.queensu.ca/gazette/stori...t-time-problem
Already thoroughly debunked. Over and over and over again.


Here, figure it our for yourself.

2021 U.S. #22 Canada # 1 https://www.usnews.com/news/best-cou...th-care-system

https://www.commonwealthfund.org/pub...C%20healthy%2C

Even allowing for the vagaries of all these ranking systems using variables of priorities from cost to outcomes. Canada is shown as better in every single one of them with the U.S. never making it into the top ten.
 
Old 06-08-2021, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Canada # 1
You guys are sooo desperate to have something to claim yourselves number one in.

I get it. That whole hockey thing ain’t going too well for ya.

*snicker*
 
Old 06-08-2021, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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That was mean. I almost feel bad.

Almost.
 
Old 06-08-2021, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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That was mean. I almost feel bad.

Almost.
Let them have their crap healthcare. Canadians like to leave out the glaring flaws in their system.

I asked for an MRI this past Friday and I'm getting it tomorrow.
 
Old 06-08-2021, 01:58 PM
 
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Already thoroughly debunked. Over and over and over again.
It's not debunked. You posted the stats yourself. Canadians travel abroad at a 36% higher rate than Americans do to seek better and quicker access to health care. If Canadian health care is so great, why do so many Canadians have to travel abroad to access health care?

Also, why does Canadian health care only cover 70% of costs? Why are Canadians on the hook for 60% of the costs of prescription meds, paying either out of their own pockets or depending on a private insurance policy (if they even have one)?
 
Old 06-08-2021, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Let them have their crap healthcare. Canadians like to leave out the glaring flaws in their system.

I asked for an MRI this past Friday and I'm getting it tomorrow.
USA: 10,000 MRI machines.
Canada: 366 MRI machines.
 
Old 06-08-2021, 02:03 PM
 
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Let them have their crap healthcare. Canadians like to leave out the glaring flaws in their system.

I asked for an MRI this past Friday and I'm getting it tomorrow.
Unbelievable you people think this system in the us is so superb. My friend in Canada had breast cancer. Had surgery, treatment, all of it. Paid not one dime.

It’s almost like karma needs to happen for people to come out from under the insane hypnosis they’ve been under to finally admit how effed up this system is in this first world country.
 
Old 06-08-2021, 02:05 PM
 
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You didn't answer the question. How are illegal aliens paying federal income and payroll taxes and filing federal tax returns when they aren't eligible for a Social Security number (required to pay federal income and payroll taxes and to file a tax return)?

Like I said, only authorized temporary workers (H-2B, J-1, etc.) and those in non-immigrant visa status (H-1B) who are authorized to work in the United States by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) can get a Social Security number (SSN).

https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10096.pdf

Since illegal aliens aren't eligible for a SS number, that IRS "estimate" of 6 million is extremely doubtful.
The answer, had you bothered to read the link, was right there in the link regarding the application and filing using an ITIN. Undocumented Aliens can apply and receive an ITIN by which they can then file an IRS form using that number in lieu of an SSN.
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