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Old 06-05-2021, 03:39 AM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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When people say that Trump did irreparable damage to our country, this is one example, the way he made hate, ignorance and racism a badge of honor for so many.
I hate Trump and support increasing the numbers of legal immigration. Most come here to work, which is good for the economy in spite of the populist garbage both Trumpers and Union thug worshipping Democrats believe in. That said, managing the border chaos is a separate matter. Developing proper ways to handle the numbers humanely and setup systems to move people is challenging but it has to be done. So it's been extremely disappointing to see Biden/Harris try to blame Trump or say this is the result of climate change. This sort of ineptitude is bad for America and for the people trying to get into this country.
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Old 06-05-2021, 03:57 AM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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Well getting to the root of the problem is a part of solution.
It's incredibly naive to think El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, and Mexico will ever have the opportunity or quality of life of the US. You don't suddenly take economies based on drugs, labor intensive agriculture, corruption, and low education and turn them into functioning societies. These places will be significantly poorer and corrupt than the US for as long as they exist. This has to be part of the thinking of a sensible border strategy.

The last administration sank to unthinkable lows and things suck enough in Honduras that people came anyway. Meanwhile, this administration is putting its head in the sand and is showing remarkable weakness by being afraid to confront any of these issues seriously.
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Old 06-05-2021, 04:19 AM
 
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Part of the solution is dealing with the drug crisis in the US which is the root cause of the gangs in Central America. We are driving it though our demand.
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Old 06-05-2021, 04:48 AM
 
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Unless invited to any country , it's not our place to intercede. Period. Unsure if the FBI and CIA have information that helps the V.P to go in an effort to de-escalate the surge in immigration.
Our former presidents each chose methods that chiseled away at this challenge. None though have been successful .

Leaders are using it's occupants as chess pieces.
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Old 06-06-2021, 07:40 PM
 
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It's incredibly naive to think El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, and Mexico will ever have the opportunity or quality of life of the US. You don't suddenly take economies based on drugs, labor intensive agriculture, corruption, and low education and turn them into functioning societies. These places will be significantly poorer and corrupt than the US for as long as they exist. This has to be part of the thinking of a sensible border strategy.

The last administration sank to unthinkable lows and things suck enough in Honduras that people came anyway. Meanwhile, this administration is putting its head in the sand and is showing remarkable weakness by being afraid to confront any of these issues seriously.
Mexico is a wealthy nation. The only problem is most of the populace is held down by those with power. They need to solve their own in house problem. They have the resources to it. They can raise their own standard of living

https://markets.businessinsider.com/...9-6-1028281403

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"Mexico has a strong economy with a gross domestic product that ranks 15th globally, thanks largely to its manufacturing and petroleum exports. But Mexico is also a nation of contradictions. Its economic power translates poorly to the country's populace, almost half of which live in poverty."

Honduras, and Guatemala are not that bad either. They are like Mexico. They have everything it needs to raise living standards. You dont need Tech, and Hollywood to have a stable nation.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p2jpSWcA_s&t=18s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj1s7uIm3Wk
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Old 06-06-2021, 07:42 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Well she didn't make it....had to fly back home to the US because of technical issues.

https://news.yahoo.com/kamala-harris...192046056.html
Vice President Kamala Harris' flight to Guatemala was forced to return to Joint Base Andrews due to technical issues. Harris is making her first foreign visit to Guatemala, to have talks about border security and the migration surge in Central America.
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Old 06-06-2021, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Cali
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to see how she can increase the crisis -

https://nypost.com/2021/06/02/kamala...igration-czar/
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“It is about what we need to do and can do together to build support for the folks who need help in terms of hunger and the economic development piece, the extreme weather and the impact that has had on their economy.”
Sounds like she is saying and admitting that the migrants are economic migrants, not asylum.


There you go leftists. Your VP finally admitting that the migrants are economic migrants
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Old 06-06-2021, 09:14 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Well she didn't make it....had to fly back home to the US because of technical issues.

https://news.yahoo.com/kamala-harris...192046056.html
Vice President Kamala Harris' flight to Guatemala was forced to return to Joint Base Andrews due to technical issues. Harris is making her first foreign visit to Guatemala, to have talks about border security and the migration surge in Central America.
Maybe, like Hillary, she'd left her sunglasses behind and made them turn around and go back to get them.
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Old 06-06-2021, 09:39 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Do they have a bakery that she hasn't tried yet? Maybe she has some leftover "Biden Please let us in!" t-shirts to hand out.


Likely the only thing she'll do is promise to give them even more money. They're probably laughing at her and Biden*.
funny you should mention bakeries.. s

she gave out such great cookies on the plane
https://mobile.twitter.com/cmsub/sta...01417715486734

kacklin' kamilar kookies!

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Old 06-06-2021, 10:04 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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funny you should mention bakeries.. s

she gave out such great cookies on the plane
https://mobile.twitter.com/cmsub/sta...01417715486734

kacklin' kamilar kookies!
eek.


Well, the image on the cookie is definitely an improvement.
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