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Old 06-06-2021, 05:52 PM
 
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This is one of the reasons it is good to have a President who is well-versed in geography and geopolitics.
Yeah, by pushing the Iraq war and the deaths of many people and refusing to testify in Congress under oath. I guess you want a President that knows how to lie and keep lying about wars and look good on t.v. Thanks for the laugh.

She managed the biggest foreign policy blunder in U.S. history but she is good because she knows where are the countries on a map.
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Old 06-06-2021, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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I would rather vote for Trump than for her -- and I strongly dislike Trump.

Doesn't anyone remember the Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld-Rice disaster regarding 9/11?

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...nt-911/411175/
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Old 06-06-2021, 09:58 PM
 
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I would rather vote for Trump than for her -- and I strongly dislike Trump.

Doesn't anyone remember the Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld-Rice disaster regarding 9/11?

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...nt-911/411175/
Obviously not. They act like they have a short memory span. Trump is vulgar or whatever but We are talking about the worst military blunder in history that resulted in million of people's deaths, trillions of dollars in destruction and spending that We are still fighting and paying for after 19 years.

Is not even in the same ball park or planet for comparison.

You think if Eisenhower messed up the management of WW 2 so bad that he would be President material in the later years? He would get demoted and force to retired.

It's like Robert McNamara who was Secretary of Defense for 8 years (1961-1969) and mishandled Vietnam badly. Who in the right state of mind would want to nominate him for President for 1972 or 1976? People would laugh at you and then to add salt to the injury saying McNamara is sane and competent and repeat it over and over.

and by the way, McNamara is 10 times smarter than Rice and still neither of them should be in charge of National Security after their messed ups. They should do like Generals. Demote them and retired them quietly and show them the door.
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Old 06-06-2021, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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Good people like Condi don't want to run.
Im sure the many people up in heaven from the Iraq war would just rain down their angelic praise on her .
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Old 06-06-2021, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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Obviously not. They act like they have a short memory span. Trump is vulgar or whatever but We are talking about the worst military blunder in history that resulted in million of people's deaths, trillions of dollars in destruction and spending that We are still fighting and paying for after 19 years.

Is not even in the same ball park or planet for comparison.

You think if Eisenhower messed up the management of WW 2 so bad that he would be President material in the later years? He would get demoted and force to retired.

It's like Robert McNamara who was Secretary of Defense for 8 years (1961-1969) and mishandled Vietnam badly. Who in the right state of mind would want to nominate him for President for 1972 or 1976? People would laugh at you and then to add salt to the injury saying McNamara is sane and competent and repeat it over and over.

and by the way, McNamara is 10 times smarter than Rice and still neither of them should be in charge of National Security after their messed ups. They should do like Generals. Demote them and retired them quietly and show them the door.
Actually they should be arrested for war crimes.
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Old 06-06-2021, 10:23 PM
 
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Actually they should be arrested for war crimes.

I think they should face hearings under oath and be questioned by Congress so We can learn what went down and how to avoid it in the future but like they do Generals in the military that messed up, they should be demoted and force to retirement and shown the door NOT get promoted in government.


Reminds me of the public school system I grew up. They don't fire the bad teachers or principals. They just move them to other schools or give them promotions to the Department of Education because of the political party in power. Small potatoes compared to war but similar tactics.
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Old 06-06-2021, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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I think they should face hearings under oath and be questioned by Congress so We can learn what went down and how to avoid it in the future but like they do Generals in the military that messed up, they should be demoted and force to retirement and shown the door NOT get promoted in government.


Reminds me of the public school system I grew up. They don't fire the bad teachers or principals. They just move them to other schools or give them promotions to the Department of Education because of the political party in power. Small potatoes compared to war but similar tactics.
They cried wolf and it caused the death of THOUSANDS.... How is that ok? We act like it's ok. It's not.
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Old 06-06-2021, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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This is one of the reasons it is good to have a President who is well-versed in geography and geopolitics.
Foreign policy is one of the most important parts of the job. Condelezza Rice has extensive foreign policy expertise. If she were interested in a White House run her experience in foreign affairs would be the strongest argument for giving her the nomination.
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Old 06-06-2021, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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Foreign policy is one of the most important parts of the job. Condelezza Rice has extensive foreign policy expertise. If she were interested in a White House run her experience in foreign affairs would be the strongest argument for giving her the nomination.
Expertise in sacking countries and getting our soldiers killed.
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Old 06-06-2021, 10:48 PM
 
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Foreign policy is one of the most important parts of the job. Condelezza Rice has extensive foreign policy expertise. If she were interested in a White House run her experience in foreign affairs would be the strongest argument for giving her the nomination.
stop it! you take the comedy too far. That's like saying Robert McNamara experience in the Vietnam foreign affairs mess would be the strongest argument giving him the nomination in 1976 or 1980. That would be his weakest argument to put him in charge of our national defense.
and Robert McNamara is 10 times smarter than Rice. If you mess up in foreign policy that bad you don't get a 2nd chance. They show you the door.


You mess up in foreign policy so bad that you make that into a strong argument for promotion to the W.H., that is some Twilight Zone material, Jedi mind trick.


That's like a manager of KFC managing the store so bad and then going to apply for CEO of KFC using his record of the store as the strongest argument for the job. Thanks for the laugh.
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