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Old 06-05-2021, 03:26 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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According to world-o-meter there are 5 million active cases of covid 19 in the USA. How is that possible? Active cases are just 21 days... new cases have been dropping for well over a month. How come no one calls this out?

Then deaths are simply not dropping. If you look at the results from last year at this time deaths are simply not that different. Deaths then were around 500 to 800 and now the are 300 to 600.

Never mind that cases aren't that different as well.. last year at this time we were around 22000 new cases a day and now we are at 18000 cases.

Isn't anyone else noticing ?
Average cases for the last week have been around 15,000, about 1/3rd of what they were a month ago. Moreover, positive test rates have been under 2% the last week compared to over 20% a year ago. Worldometers can't do much about people who don't know how to interpret data.
It's as if some people feel guilty about ending the locked down state of affairs and returning to a more cheerful "normal."
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Old 06-05-2021, 04:10 AM
 
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Oh, and btw, as most of you probably know, HEALTHY people only rarely end up being hospitalized for COVID! From this link, https://healthitanalytics.com/news/m...ronic-diseases (quote, my italics):

February 25, 2021 - Obesity, hypertension, diabetes, and heart failure are the chronic diseases that contribute to a majority of adult COVID-19 hospitalizations across the country, a study published in the Journal of the American Heart Association (JAHA) revealed.

Among the 906,849 total COVID-19 hospitalizations that occurred in US adults as of November 18, 2020, researchers estimated that 30 percent were attributable to obesity; 26 percent were attributable to hypertension; 21 percent were due to diabetes; and 12 percent were attributable to heart failure.

The attributable proportion represents the percentage of COVID-19 hospitalizations that could have been prevented if the patient didn’t have one of the four conditions. The study found that while individuals still may have gotten the virus, without one of these pre-existing conditions patients may not have had severe enough illness to require hospitalization.
Thanks for this. Very hard to get information on this.

The only one I used to have was obesity but during the covid "crisis" I lost 40 lbs and now am only "overweight".
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Old 06-05-2021, 05:36 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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Well, guess what?

I just Googled again and I must have phrased it differently -- I wish I could remember my exact phrasing -- but this popped up which shows complete data as of three months ago.*
https://covidtracking.com/data *

As of March 7, 2021, or Wisconsin (you can jump to your state in the link and do your own math for your own state), out of approximately 5.9 million residents, there have been:

621,654 Total Cases - 10.54% of population
566,693 confirmed cases
54,961 probable cases

26,457 hospitalized - 4.26% of total cases
(past and present)

7,106 deaths - 1.14% of total cases
6,481 confirmed deaths
625 probable deaths


* "As of March 7, 2021, we are no longer collecting new data." (I have no idea, I can't even guess, why they are no longer tracking.)
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Old 06-05-2021, 05:45 AM
 
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My state has 4700 active covid cases.

So mine is a medium state -- guessing take 4700 X 50 = 235,000 cases that are active in the usa.

IMHO that makes sense because there are only about 5800 "serious" cases in the USA. A little less than 3% of all cases.

235,000/32 million seems like great odds.
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Old 06-05-2021, 08:05 AM
 
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Well, guess what?

I just Googled again and I must have phrased it differently -- I wish I could remember my exact phrasing -- but this popped up which shows complete data as of three months ago.*
https://covidtracking.com/data *

As of March 7, 2021, or Wisconsin (you can jump to your state in the link and do your own math for your own state), out of approximately 5.9 million residents, there have been:

621,654 Total Cases - 10.54% of population
566,693 confirmed cases
54,961 probable cases

26,457 hospitalized - 4.26% of total cases
(past and present)

7,106 deaths - 1.14% of total cases
6,481 confirmed deaths
625 probable deaths


* "As of March 7, 2021, we are no longer collecting new data." (I have no idea, I can't even guess, why they are no longer tracking.)
Up to date cases and deaths:

https://www.google.com/search?q=wisc...4dUDCAg&uact=5
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Old 06-12-2021, 05:06 AM
 
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And as I expected, we might be going back up. This was the first week in many when cases and deaths increased ...

My gut is telling me this vaccine isn't working... it is the weather.

Last year we had about 19K cases around this time of the year and now, we have 16K.

In the late summer cases started going up and.. we are seeing a slight increase now... I am very much expecting to see an uptick that will be blamed on some "new variant".

And I have to ask... with 70% of the population vaccinate and at least 1/3 of the remainder naturally immune.. how are we having nearly as many cases as last year?
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Old 06-12-2021, 05:12 AM
 
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According to world-o-meter there are 5 million active cases of covid 19 in the USA. How is that possible? Active cases are just 21 days... new cases have been dropping for well over a month. How come no one calls this out?

Then deaths are simply not dropping. If you look at the results from last year at this time deaths are simply not that different. Deaths then were around 500 to 800 and now the are 300 to 600.

Never mind that cases aren't that different as well.. last year at this time we were around 22000 new cases a day and now we are at 18000 cases.

Isn't anyone else noticing ?
Who said World-O-Meter was accurate?

If your compass says North is actually West, ask yourself, did North move or do you just need a better compass?
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Old 06-12-2021, 05:17 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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It will certainly be interesting to see the numbers, although, of course, I hope your gut is wrong, Arya.

Our county's number of reported new cases has increased here in the last week, too. From May 20 through June 1, we had ZERO cases in our county, but we have eight new reported cases since then, with the highest number being 3 new reported cases yesterday. However, tourist season started May 28, so that might account for it in our county's case. (As I might have mentioned before, our county, with a population of less than 30,000, receives two million visitors a year, with summer getting the most.)
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Old 06-12-2021, 05:20 AM
 
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Husband tested Positive at a hospital. Needing a Negative test, he got tested at a CVS 3 weeks later. Still Positive. Counted as an additional case number?

When he went back to same hospital, they would not test him again until 3 MONTHS after his first test. They said he could still have trace amounts of virus resulting in another Positive test.

Falsely adding to the statistics?
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Old 06-12-2021, 05:26 AM
 
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My gut is telling me this vaccine isn't working... it is the weather.

Of course you have absolutely no evidence to support this but thew is plenty of evidence to support the efficacy of the vaccines. Posts like this are irresponsible.
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