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Old 06-26-2021, 10:16 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Stop moving the goal posts. The topic is what Israel did to the Palestinians. Nothing else. Start a new topic if you wish about other issues, but quite with the whataboutisms.
You win! See Liberate Tibet! At Least Add Tibet to the Human Rights List that Includes "Palestine". I opened a new topic. Let's see how really strongly you feel about true outrages other than national self-defense.
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Old 06-26-2021, 11:44 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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I did not hold the Israeli government responsible for the murder. The Israel government punishment of right wing Jewish terrorist is much lighter than Arab terrorist The Israeli government does not demolish the homes of Jewish terrorists only Arabs. The father of Mohammed Abu Khdeir was very angry and vocal about this
This continues the pattern of state sanctioned discrimination Arabs face in Israel.

I am an anti semite for wanting Jewish terrorist and Arab terrorist punished the same? How do you justify this difference in punishment based ethnicity/religion?
The Palestinian Authority Martyrs Fund pays a stipend to the family of suicide bombers and other terrorists who die carrying out acts of terror against Israelis.

It was profitable to send your children off into Israel to commit murder/suicide....

...Until Israel started the policy of bulldozing the homes of their families.

That policy took the profit motive out of strapping bombs onto your children and sending them into busy markets to explode themselves and everyone around them.
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Old 06-26-2021, 11:53 AM
 
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The Palestinian Authority Martyrs Fund pays a stipend to the family of suicide bombers and other terrorists who die carrying out acts of terror against Israelis.

It was profitable to send your children off into Israel to commit murder/suicide....

...Until Israel started the policy of bulldozing the homes of their families.

That policy took the profit motive out of strapping bombs onto your children and sending them into busy markets to explode themselves and everyone around them.
Imagine the lack of morality it takes to arrange for your own child to be murdered - and for money. There is no comparison between how Israeli Jews view life, and how Palestinians do. No Jew would EVER do do that.
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Old 06-26-2021, 01:58 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Imagine the lack of morality it takes to arrange for your own child to be murdered - and for money. There is no comparison between how Israeli Jews view life, and how Palestinians do. No Jew would EVER do do that.
Well Baruch Goldstein but there are always sickos everywhere.
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Old 06-26-2021, 03:10 PM
 
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Imagine the lack of morality it takes to arrange for your own child to be murdered - and for money. There is no comparison between how Israeli Jews view life, and how Palestinians do. No Jew would EVER do do that.
Now I understand
In Israel a Palestinian can stab a Jewish Israeli and the family home will be demolished. Elderly grandparents and young children made homeless.
A Jewish terrorist can KIDNAP AN ISRAELI ARAB CHILD BEAT HIM WITH METAL PIPES POOR GASOLINE DOWN THE CHILD’S THROAT AND BURN HIM ALIVE. Even though the Arab father is a good Israeli citizen the family home of the terrorist who slaughtered his son will not be demolished because Jews as a whole are superior. Thanks for clearing that up.

That reverence for human life is not readily apparent here and seems selective.
Baruch Goldstein massacred 29 Arabs and wounded 125
At Goldstein's funeral, Rabbi Yaacov Perrin claimed that even one million Arabs are "not worth a Jewish fingernail".Samuel Hacohen, a teacher at a Jerusalem college, declared Goldstein the "greatest Jew alive, not in one way, but in every way", and said that he was "the only one who could do it, the only one who was 100 percent perfect".Rabbi Dov Lior of Kiryat Arba declared that Goldstein was "holier than all the martyrs of the Holocaust".
In the weeks following the massacre, hundreds of Israelis traveled to Goldstein's grave to celebrate Goldstein's actions. Some Hasidim danced and sang around his grave.According to one visitor to the gravesite in the wake of the attacks, "If [Goldstein] stopped these so-called peace talks, then he is truly holy because this is not real peace."Some visitors declared Goldstein a "saint" and "hero of Israel"


The position and arguments that Israeli supporters are making on this thread have been at turns immoral, illogical and/or violated the Geneva convention. This inability to put forth ethical positions are why the Apartheid week and BDS movements continue to grow.


You say I am an antisemite for believing the Israeli government should have demolished the homes of the murderers of Mohammed Abu Khdeir. Are the Israeli High Court must be antisemites because they stated the policy should apply to Arabs and Jews.
However they would not allow demolition as so much time had passed.
How did so many antisemites get onto the Israeli high court?

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Old 06-26-2021, 03:22 PM
 
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Now I understand
In Israel a Palestinian can stab a Jewish Israeli and the family home will be demolished. Elderly grandparents and young children made homeless.
A Jewish terrorist can KIDNAP AN ISRAELI ARAB CHILD BEAT HIM WITH METAL PIPES POOR GASOLINE DOWN THE CHILD’S THROAT AND BURN HIM ALIVE. Even though the Arab father is a good Israeli citizen the family home of the terrorist who slaughtered his son will not be demolished because Jews as a whole are superior. Thanks for clearing that up.

That reverence for human life is not readily apparent here and seems selective.
Baruch Goldstein massacred 29 Arabs and wounded 125
At Goldstein's funeral, Rabbi Yaacov Perrin claimed that even one million Arabs are "not worth a Jewish fingernail".Samuel Hacohen, a teacher at a Jerusalem college, declared Goldstein the "greatest Jew alive, not in one way, but in every way", and said that he was "the only one who could do it, the only one who was 100 percent perfect".Rabbi Dov Lior of Kiryat Arba declared that Goldstein was "holier than all the martyrs of the Holocaust".
In the weeks following the massacre, hundreds of Israelis traveled to Goldstein's grave to celebrate Goldstein's actions. Some Hasidim danced and sang around his grave.According to one visitor to the gravesite in the wake of the attacks, "If [Goldstein] stopped these so-called peace talks, then he is truly holy because this is not real peace."Some visitors declared Goldstein a "saint" and "hero of Israel"


The position and arguments that Israeli supporters are making on this thread have been at turns immoral, illogical and/or violated the Geneva convention. This inability to put forth ethical positions are why the Apartheid week and BDS movements continue to grow.


You say I am an antisemite for believing the Israeli government should have demolished the homes of the murderers of Mohammed Abu Khdeir. Are the Israeli High Court must be antisemites because they stated the policy should apply to Arabs and Jews.
However they would not allow demolition as so much time had passed.
How did so many antisemites get onto the Israeli high court?
Nope. I said that your lopsided (actually, EXCLUSIVE) condemnation of Israel meets the definition of antisemitism, according to the U.S. State Department.
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Old 06-26-2021, 08:30 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Now I understand
In Israel a Palestinian can stab a Jewish Israeli and the family home will be demolished. Elderly grandparents and young children made homeless.
A Jewish terrorist can KIDNAP AN ISRAELI ARAB CHILD BEAT HIM WITH METAL PIPES POOR GASOLINE DOWN THE CHILD’S THROAT AND BURN HIM ALIVE. Even though the Arab father is a good Israeli citizen the family home of the terrorist who slaughtered his son will not be demolished because Jews as a whole are superior. Thanks for clearing that up.

That reverence for human life is not readily apparent here and seems selective.
Baruch Goldstein massacred 29 Arabs and wounded 125
At Goldstein's funeral, Rabbi Yaacov Perrin claimed that even one million Arabs are "not worth a Jewish fingernail".Samuel Hacohen, a teacher at a Jerusalem college, declared Goldstein the "greatest Jew alive, not in one way, but in every way", and said that he was "the only one who could do it, the only one who was 100 percent perfect".Rabbi Dov Lior of Kiryat Arba declared that Goldstein was "holier than all the martyrs of the Holocaust".
In the weeks following the massacre, hundreds of Israelis traveled to Goldstein's grave to celebrate Goldstein's actions. Some Hasidim danced and sang around his grave.According to one visitor to the gravesite in the wake of the attacks, "If [Goldstein] stopped these so-called peace talks, then he is truly holy because this is not real peace."Some visitors declared Goldstein a "saint" and "hero of Israel"


The position and arguments that Israeli supporters are making on this thread have been at turns immoral, illogical and/or violated the Geneva convention. This inability to put forth ethical positions are why the Apartheid week and BDS movements continue to grow.


You say I am an antisemite for believing the Israeli government should have demolished the homes of the murderers of Mohammed Abu Khdeir. Are the Israeli High Court must be antisemites because they stated the policy should apply to Arabs and Jews.
However they would not allow demolition as so much time had passed.
How did so many antisemites get onto the Israeli high court?
I have a few responses to you, besides questioning the etiology of your screen name:
  1. Kuryiot Schmone (sp);
  2. Lod Airport Massacre;
  3. Olympics Massacre; and
  4. The mother of all massacres, September 11, 2001
I wonder what you are like in person, if you have any conscience or feelings.
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Old 06-27-2021, 05:38 AM
 
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I have a few responses to you, besides questioning the etiology of your screen name:
  1. Kuryiot Schmone (sp);
  2. Lod Airport Massacre;
  3. Olympics Massacre; and
  4. The mother of all massacres, September 11, 2001
I wonder what you are like in person, if you have any conscience or feelings.
Why not include all the Palestinian Arab attacks against Israeli Jews since modern Israel started in 1948? if one wants to understand why Palestinian Arabs aren't always trusted by Israeli Jews. Of course these attacks of Arabs against Jews in the area started in 1920:
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...ties-in-israel
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Old 06-27-2021, 05:42 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Why not include all the Palestinian Arab attacks against Israeli Jews since modern Israel started in 1948? if one wants to understand why Palestinian Arabs aren't always trusted by Israeli Jews. Of course these attacks of Arabs against Jews in the area started in 1920:
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...ties-in-israel
How long a list do you want?

Also, it was just pointed out in a DM that the vibrant Jewish communities were decimated by the Arabs, apparently taking their lead from what was being done in Europe, through the 1940s until Israel accepted them. The Arabs didn't pay any compensation, which at least West Germany did. Israel accepted the Arab Jewish refugees; the Arabs have not absorbed the "Palestinians."
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Old 06-27-2021, 05:53 AM
 
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How long a list do you want?

Also, it was just pointed out in a DM that the vibrant Jewish communities were decimated by the Arabs, apparently taking their lead from what was being done in Europe, through the 1940s until Israel accepted them. The Arabs didn't pay any compensation, which at least West Germany did. Israel accepted the Arab Jewish refugees; the Arabs have not absorbed the "Palestinians."
Yes, and take that situation out further: The antisemitic Arabs kicked out nearly a million Jews from their homes throughout the Middle East, many if not most of whom found refugee in Israel. Now the Arabs want to wipe Israel out to sea, making the children and grandchildren of those expelled from Arab countries homeless again.

And yet, some posters here are intent on focusing on ONLY what the Jews are doing. Any attempt to show that Muslims have treated Jews much, much worse as a means of demonstrating the double standard is meant with a face palm and accusations of “whataboutism.”
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